Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-09-14 14:08:38 UTC  

strayans get what they deserve

2019-09-14 14:08:39 UTC  

ngl

2019-09-14 14:09:19 UTC  

Australia is basically a nanny state, they don't mind the slow walk to authoritarian government if it means safety

2019-09-14 14:15:29 UTC  

I told my aunt that Queensland becoming a nanny state, she got quite defensive. this was for hearing that your not aloud to honk your cars horn to say good buy type thing.

2019-09-14 14:24:41 UTC  

Law in Victoria recently forcing practicing electronic and electrical engineers to register to be able to practice. Just because some doggy civil engineers have been shit.

2019-09-14 14:27:36 UTC  

I don't have a radio nor a tv so i'm quite out of the loop.

2019-09-14 14:32:40 UTC  

I stopped bothering to be honest. I just don't see a point. They (majority of the population - who are forced to vote) don't really care if aus becomes a complete nanny state.

2019-09-14 14:35:19 UTC  

Keep the links, talk and posting to the politics of the channel please. Do not post off topic, that is what we have the Xenoi channels for. Thank you!

2019-09-14 14:35:23 UTC  

2019-09-14 14:36:23 UTC  

A fair few people I know are quite annoyed by the nannyifacation of the state, however there isn't really much they can do about it as long as the political parties are in consensus about it.

2019-09-14 14:38:39 UTC  

Oh it is fucking frustrating. But they don't mind less freedom, they don't mind centralized government control, nor if the states cracks down on things that aren't considered "un-polite".

2019-09-14 14:39:11 UTC  

They are doing the good thing and that's really as far as the discussions tend to go in my view.

2019-09-14 14:40:50 UTC  

They're babies in adult bodies

2019-09-14 14:41:03 UTC  

There isn't this entrepreneurship perspective that is seen in the US, most people want government intervention to sort out problems.

2019-09-14 14:41:07 UTC  

I think it's less that the don't mind less freedom, and more that there are other issues that are more important to them. Which if you believe those values are more important can be quite annoying.

2019-09-14 14:41:27 UTC  

Not a bad way to summarize it. I don't like the framework, but that's more akin to their thoughts

2019-09-14 14:41:53 UTC  

It's totallay fine to have less freedom as long as it doesn't offend my sensitivities mkay

2019-09-14 14:42:15 UTC  

my house mate, she was utterly confused about the idea of a small government. "Having more members get to conclusion faster" was her response.

2019-09-14 14:42:21 UTC  

modern politics is very bad at prioritising more than one thing at a time

2019-09-14 14:44:04 UTC  

@DEPChimp yea, some people are idiots, never going to get away from that.

2019-09-14 14:45:29 UTC  

@DEPChimp Just explain it to her like this: "If the nanny state decides it's more efficient to take your kids away from you, would you be in favor of that?" And if she answers "no" then just ask her why she thinks efficiency is a good reason to take any of people's freedoms away.

2019-09-14 14:46:20 UTC  

She'd have to bend over backwards twice to splain that

2019-09-14 14:47:01 UTC  

o boy, she thinks its a good idea that parents need a licence to have kids, coos what if the parents are pedos.

2019-09-14 14:47:16 UTC  

having more members doesn't even lead to faster conclusions, the immediacy of dictatorships is one of it's few advantages

2019-09-14 14:48:28 UTC  

the larger the government, usually, the less rapidly it's able to adapt to change

2019-09-14 14:48:45 UTC  

In some cases virtually or literally impossible

2019-09-14 14:50:35 UTC  

aye, like small companies can make run loops around large corporations. with there ability to be flexible in decisions and actions.

2019-09-14 14:51:13 UTC  

You just gave me an idea for why Google is so authoritarian

2019-09-14 14:52:40 UTC  

@leavethisbotnet Today at 10:38 AM
"What really highlighted this for me was the Catalonia situation. If they had a militia, they'd be independent by now."

What of Catalonia secession warrants force? What're their respective interests in pursuing such?

2019-09-14 14:54:30 UTC  

@Jeremy I am not familiar with the Catalonia situation, could you please explain what's going on?

2019-09-14 14:55:06 UTC  

Was it the break off from Spain?

2019-09-14 14:55:14 UTC  

Catalonia is richer

2019-09-14 14:55:22 UTC  

which was one reason

2019-09-14 14:55:44 UTC  

You also had some foreign interventionism going on.

2019-09-14 14:56:06 UTC  

I searched it and this came up:
people also ask:
Q: Is Catalonia a country
A: **SPAIN**

2019-09-14 14:56:39 UTC  

The point was, whether or not they can be independent, depends on whether or not they have the means to enforce that independence.

2019-09-14 14:56:47 UTC  

Indeed.

2019-09-14 14:57:18 UTC  

Whether it is within their best interests is another question, however.

2019-09-14 14:57:44 UTC  

well, that's really up to them to decide

2019-09-14 14:57:58 UTC  

If you're interested in Catalonia in particular then go ahead, otherwise this belongs in eu_politics

2019-09-14 14:58:36 UTC  

since the discussion is about relation between EU and member states