Message from @ETBrooD
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A couple thousand years ago, we have a drought.
Shaman says it’s because we didn’t pray at the worshipping stone enough.
Shaman says he knows more than me.
I’ll take Shaman advice. I’ll go to worshipping stone.
I don’t want to go against what the shaman says. I don’t want to be a denier.
A couple hundred years ago we have little ice age.
Priest says it’s because we didn’t go to church enough.
Priest says he knows more than me.
I’ll take priests advice. I’ll go to church.
I don’t want to go against what the priest says. I don’t want to be a denier.
Today the climate is changing.
Scientist says it’s because we are producing too much carbon.
Scientist says he knows more than me.
I’ll take the scientists advice. I’ll stop producing carbon.
I don’t want to go against what the scientist says. I don’t want to be a denier.
this needs to be f'n pinned
Well, big difference between zero evidence and some evidence
Not exactly what I'd call a good metaphor or whatever, but certainlyinteresting food for thought
the scientists have far better tools for investigating this sort of phenomenon, i think
You don’t find it odd that the solution to literally every problem is “Hey, a bit of socialism will fix that right up.”?
No, because they're socialists. And they think the answer to everything is more socialism
Snark aside, I am willing to concede that they know more about what’s going on than I do. And the climate is slowly changing. Of course it is. It always is.
...but didn’t they say that polar bears would be extinct by now? (Their numbers are growing)
...And that both ice caps would be shrinking? (Antarctica is growing)
...And that low lying coastal areas would be under a foot of water by now? (They aren’t)
...And that Northern Scotland would have snow free winters? (Record snow fall)
We’ve had floods where they’ve said there would be droughts.
We’ve had bumper crops where they said there would be famines.
Again. They say the climate is changing.
Ok.
They say it’s because of carbon we’re producing.
Ok.
...they’ve gotten a lot wrong already.
That's why I usually avoid the climate debate
Too many idiots weighing in already
It just grinds my gears how when you bring this stuff up in public, you get the same looks that people give flat earthers.
I'll pick a side when they make up their mind
People are easily scared.
People are especially scared of the unknown.
The CO2 issue is an invisible threat.
Therefore people fear it more than anything else.
And so it is easy to brainwash them.
It’s like, damn motherfucker, I’m not denying science, I’m quoting the scientist that just disproved your scientist.
It was the same thing with the nuclear threat.
It's the safest, cleanest energy source. Yet people decided to end it. Look at Germany, their fear has resulted in stopping all their nuclear plants.
Both good and bad people use fear to justify their actions.
People forget that most countries don't do construction as janky as Russia
That's not actually the issue.
the mainstream solutions to climate change aren't socialist
The real issue is that there's a large scale misinformation campaign happening about these things.
Fear can be tackled with knowledge.
Thus people need to be misinformed to stay fearful.
For nuclear, allot of people's fears are still rooted in Chernobyl
There's another problem
Most people don't know what socialism means, and neither do they know what it is in reality.
I've been trying to inform
People easily ask for things when they don't know what those things really are.
Yeah but even then, even if we were to construct dodgy reactors that had a small risk of disaster.
Look at it from their perspective.
They think the apocalypse is coming. Within 12 years it’s all over according to them because of this climate thing.
It’s a certainty. It needs ww2 levels of response.
Ok.
Build some nuclear reactors.
Carbon free energy.
Oh, fkn no, we can’t do that.
We can’t have a *risky* situation.
Even if it avoids *certain* annihilation.
The fuck?
Actally, nuclear is the safest source, not a risky one.
I know that
according to who is it over in 12 years
Their perspective
Is that it isn’t
a lot of lefties critique the dems for being too soft on climate change
The entire left side of politics