Message from @Death in June

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2019-09-24 05:06:30 UTC  

He ain't some confederate racist bastard as you would like to call him.

2019-09-24 05:06:44 UTC  

@Death in June No, it isn't.

2019-09-24 05:06:47 UTC  

what values he defends is less important than his actions. So far he has, despite the democrat obstructionism, been committed to securing the border. Not to mention, he has brought back manufacturing jobs. Not as many as promised, sure, but something is better than nothing

2019-09-24 05:06:55 UTC  

It's quintessential for them.

2019-09-24 05:07:13 UTC  

he's easily the best option america has at the moment

2019-09-24 05:07:21 UTC  

it is contrary

2019-09-24 05:07:43 UTC  

That freedom he defends is what would eventually make China, Russia and unfortunately-the EU anger at him.

2019-09-24 05:08:02 UTC  

unless I am shown a better alternative that is just a feasible as the god emperor, but I don't see that coming anytime soon

2019-09-24 05:08:27 UTC  

And then the fate of the world will quite literally lie in the hands of the AR-15 rednecks.

2019-09-24 05:08:39 UTC  

yes, they are pissed at him because he is essentially a massive roadblock to their plans

2019-09-24 05:08:51 UTC  

that alone makes him very good, in my opinion

2019-09-24 05:09:06 UTC  

Hope Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, Italy and a few other stand by them too, but am not yet too big on that promise.

2019-09-24 05:09:31 UTC  

ew taiwan

2019-09-24 05:09:37 UTC  

Yes, they will.

2019-09-24 05:09:45 UTC  

they rely on America for basically everything, and they are used to America just bending over. With Trump, they're not getting that nearly as much

2019-09-24 05:09:46 UTC  

Cause they just hate the CCP.

2019-09-24 05:09:49 UTC  

and they fucking hate it

2019-09-24 05:09:55 UTC  

It's cultural thing, too.

2019-09-24 05:10:34 UTC  

but yeah the "free market" as we describe it is not a traditional american value

2019-09-24 05:10:41 UTC  

neither the jeffersonians nor hamiltonians supported such a thing

2019-09-24 05:10:53 UTC  

jefferson was an outright anti-capitalist

2019-09-24 05:11:01 UTC  

opposing generalized wage labor

2019-09-24 05:11:17 UTC  

what would you support then? mixed economy?

2019-09-24 05:11:23 UTC  

I think it is completely in the spirit of classical American liberalism, so it is as conservative as it gets.

2019-09-24 05:12:20 UTC  

i would support a variant of national syndicalism

2019-09-24 05:13:09 UTC  

I would argue from a cultural standpoint free market liberalism is closer to the American core values than syndicalism.

2019-09-24 05:13:18 UTC  

i don't see why

2019-09-24 05:14:00 UTC  

Because it is quite literally build on the value of liberty which runs deep in all other aspects of the classical American cultural tradition.

2019-09-24 05:14:07 UTC  

free market to support competition and innovation, with some government balances in place to stop monopolies or cabals

2019-09-24 05:14:12 UTC  

small business oriented

2019-09-24 05:14:40 UTC  

Why won't you support the most liberal economic system out there when your entire culture is based on the idea of liberty?

2019-09-24 05:14:43 UTC  

the dominance of vast holdings of capital concentrated in private hands directly contravenes what the founding fathers advocated for

2019-09-24 05:15:18 UTC  

This is why there is anti-trust regulation.

2019-09-24 05:15:33 UTC  

There just must be someone willing to actually implement it.

2019-09-24 05:15:34 UTC  

it's not particularly useful

2019-09-24 05:15:54 UTC  

especially when we consider that economies of scale are a reality

2019-09-24 05:16:11 UTC  

Cause the power elites are corrupt, not because the legislation itself is in any way, shape or form wrong by default.

2019-09-24 05:16:13 UTC  

the centralized political power afforded by the concentration of production power into a single body is a reality

2019-09-24 05:16:36 UTC  

the only question is how it is to be organized

2019-09-24 05:16:59 UTC  

It is a reality which the disregard of laws made happen.

2019-09-24 05:17:12 UTC  

Just implement the laws that already exist.