they are the perfect example of "useful idiots"

@Kaiser (ICFD) Indeed.

they agenda they push is that if you question the cultural agenda of the bourgeoisie you get beaten up

This is something very useful for communists!

Expect both the KGB and the CCP to be all over the place soon enough.

yes, which makes them very useful for keeping others from getting in the way of "progress"

hence why they would be useful

The more Trump defends American values and the more you resists them, the more the KGB and the CCP will try to ruin you.

From within.

it would only be useful insofar as the status quo is leading america to ruin

This is what they are actually good at.

The only thing they are really good at.

the point is that they are useful, we can agree to that

what american values does trump defend in your opinion

He defends the freedom of expression and the market in my opinion.

@Death in June Call him whatever you like but he DOES wants a free market economy and civil rights for all.

"free market economy" is contrary to traditional american values

He ain't some confederate racist bastard as you would like to call him.

@Death in June No, it isn't.

what values he defends is less important than his actions. So far he has, despite the democrat obstructionism, been committed to securing the border. Not to mention, he has brought back manufacturing jobs. Not as many as promised, sure, but something is better than nothing

It's quintessential for them.

he's easily the best option america has at the moment

it is contrary

That freedom he defends is what would eventually make China, Russia and unfortunately-the EU anger at him.

unless I am shown a better alternative that is just a feasible as the god emperor, but I don't see that coming anytime soon

And then the fate of the world will quite literally lie in the hands of the AR-15 rednecks.

yes, they are pissed at him because he is essentially a massive roadblock to their plans

that alone makes him very good, in my opinion

Hope Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, Italy and a few other stand by them too, but am not yet too big on that promise.

ew taiwan

Yes, they will.

they rely on America for basically everything, and they are used to America just bending over. With Trump, they're not getting that nearly as much

Cause they just hate the CCP.

and they fucking hate it

It's cultural thing, too.

but yeah the "free market" as we describe it is not a traditional american value

neither the jeffersonians nor hamiltonians supported such a thing

jefferson was an outright anti-capitalist

opposing generalized wage labor

what would you support then? mixed economy?

I think it is completely in the spirit of classical American liberalism, so it is as conservative as it gets.