Message from @kennith

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2019-10-16 18:29:17 UTC  

none of them are remotely fair

2019-10-16 18:29:43 UTC  

something though, the us is designed for gridlock

2019-10-16 18:30:02 UTC  

I suppose the issue is that people get upset that the party that forms majority is not always the popular party.. (eg. trump)

2019-10-16 18:30:06 UTC  

ironicaly right now the system is closer to how its intended to work than it has been for deccades

2019-10-16 18:30:18 UTC  

but people forget that they only get a vote for their local MP.

2019-10-16 18:30:23 UTC  

not anything else 😛

2019-10-16 18:30:48 UTC  

well, thats actualy due to the citizens voting on president

2019-10-16 18:31:26 UTC  

i think perhaps a seperation between local representation and who takes federal power might be needed.

2019-10-16 18:31:32 UTC  

IIRC you get to vote on president, but the elctoral college makes the real vote?

2019-10-16 18:31:36 UTC  

the way it used to work is that the state govenor appointed electors confirmed by the state senate to vote for the president

2019-10-16 18:32:03 UTC  

but then the states changed it so that the electors are all of the party that recieved the most votes

2019-10-16 18:32:25 UTC  

because my local conservative or liberal might be the best option, but i sure as hell don't want either of them in power federally.

2019-10-16 18:32:26 UTC  

in effect, it forced you to pay attention to your state government

2019-10-16 18:32:55 UTC  

we really never pay attention to state governments anymore, which is bad because something like 95% of legislation in the us is state level

2019-10-16 18:33:04 UTC  

in any given state.

2019-10-16 18:33:05 UTC  

@Shai'tan complicated... isn't it.

2019-10-16 18:33:28 UTC  

@ShardS that change sounds like it was pretty damaging.

2019-10-16 18:33:38 UTC  

Sounds... unconstitutional

2019-10-16 18:33:41 UTC  

but it was for democracy so it's good

2019-10-16 18:33:59 UTC  

nah, the constitution says that electors can be assigned as the state wishes

2019-10-16 18:34:15 UTC  

ahh, damn, nothing to fallback on then.

2019-10-16 18:34:51 UTC  

the reason its not popular vote, is that the president unlike senators or representatives is supposed to represent every state

2019-10-16 18:35:03 UTC  

and every region in those states

2019-10-16 18:35:07 UTC  

makes sense

2019-10-16 18:35:14 UTC  

one thing would be better civics classes. i mean hell i passed mine and i swear to you i was absent more times than i was there. i pracitally treated that class as a spare

2019-10-16 18:35:35 UTC  

even back then, they were worried about a few small geographicaly urban regions dominating the political sphere because they had high population density

2019-10-16 18:35:47 UTC  

I don't think I took a civics class.

2019-10-16 18:36:10 UTC  

"Social Studies" was about as close as I came.. and we only talked about canadian politics for 6 months of my last year of high school.

2019-10-16 18:36:21 UTC  

as it is right now, 60% of the us population is in cities, 85% is in suburbs towns or cites

2019-10-16 18:36:46 UTC  

we are one of the LEAST urban western countries and we are still urbanized to heck

2019-10-16 18:36:56 UTC  

Proper Civics education is step one in making a better political system you have to know how it works to find out what's wrong with it.

2019-10-16 18:37:23 UTC  

if I recall, in strict popular vote, the 14 largest us cities have more votes than the rest of the country

2019-10-16 18:37:32 UTC  

but educating people to think critically is coutner productive to the globalist and leftist agendas.

2019-10-16 18:37:58 UTC  

it requires something like the 20 largest states to win however.

2019-10-16 18:38:10 UTC  

so it is a middle ground between 1 vote per state and 1 vote per person

2019-10-16 18:38:13 UTC  

Sounds similar to our problem with Ontario and the rest of Canada.

2019-10-16 18:38:31 UTC  

And i care about them why? Oh right the little red sniper dot on my glasses just reminded my why. BTW Clintons did nothing wrong and Epstein committed suicide.

2019-10-16 18:39:18 UTC  

Ontario. 95/282 seats for Ontario 75/282 seats for Quebec.

2019-10-16 18:40:13 UTC  

60% of representatives come from 2 of 10 provinces and 3 territories.

2019-10-16 18:40:17 UTC  

Yes there is a problem with ontario, and quebec being a little too powerful in a system that only has 10 provinces and 3 territories.

2019-10-16 18:40:48 UTC  

its like if there were only 13 states ane two of them were newyork and california