Message from @Cryosite

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2019-09-23 23:52:23 UTC  

Oregon isn't much better

2019-09-23 23:52:54 UTC  

They tried to stop the construction of a powerplant that will generate power until the earths core stops being hot

2019-09-23 23:52:56 UTC  

killed nuclear infrastructure and also logging industry out of fucking nowhere

2019-09-23 23:53:04 UTC  

Clean power

2019-09-23 23:53:17 UTC  

Its the same people

2019-09-23 23:53:25 UTC  

Just different names

2019-09-23 23:53:39 UTC  

Its ths same all up the west coast

2019-09-23 23:55:48 UTC  

Although its also super trippy

2019-09-23 23:56:29 UTC  

Because all the big cities are super leftist and dictate policy but the largest swaths geographically are center right

2019-09-23 23:57:20 UTC  

Oregon is small enough the difference gives you whiplash

2019-09-23 23:58:52 UTC  

The big thing, near term, is to get as much LNG as possible to Asia. Development is very energy intensive and that's why they have those emissions. Every plant you move from coal to gas cuts the CO2 per KwH in half. More if it's combined cycle.

2019-09-24 00:00:47 UTC  

Africa is interesting. You have to worry because, again, development is energy intensive. But unlike most places they have great exposure on wind and solar most of the continent. Better they don't have as much grid so they don't have that up-front infrastructure investment. Solar panels etc make a lot more sense if nobody has run power lines to where you live yet.

2019-09-24 00:01:56 UTC  

put up giant forests of panels, tho, and you'll practically make the air above the continent sterile

2019-09-24 00:02:32 UTC  

all that reflected heat and radiation

2019-09-24 00:02:59 UTC  

unless we figure out a more absorbant, and ergo less-reflective medium

2019-09-24 00:05:32 UTC  

Oh I'm not talking about forests of panels. More like what people who live off the grid already do. Or small communities with no grid could have a local wind generator. I don't think they are good ways to power industry (we'll have to look for other solutions there) but if you are building from scratch and there is no existing grid solar is cheaper. Especially in that environment.

2019-09-24 00:12:13 UTC  

I mean like the Germans, like bloody idiots, invested billions in solar. It did jack shit because they are a temperate clime with lots of cloud cover and hills. The Serengeti? The Plateaus? You will get your maximum KwH per area places like that.

2019-09-24 00:17:42 UTC  

This site is great. Thanks to whomever it was above that posted an article.

2019-09-24 00:45:29 UTC  

She got better

2019-09-24 00:53:49 UTC  

Did she though?

2019-09-24 00:55:44 UTC  

Silly Germans, that solar will be useless when your Furher gets back from the moon and blots out the sun

2019-09-24 00:57:40 UTC  

They *literally* stuck it where the sun don't shine....

2019-09-24 01:02:35 UTC  

should have gone wind, would work nice with their VX

2019-09-24 01:11:26 UTC  

They did. With no significant impact on fossil fuel usage....

http://www.geni.org/globalenergy/library/energy-issues/germany/graphics/DEELEC.jpg

2019-09-24 01:12:25 UTC  

I thought I once heard Germany's focusing on figuring out how fusion works. but that was years ago

2019-09-24 01:12:54 UTC  

funding may have been cut to support more 'new germans'

2019-09-24 01:13:33 UTC  

Well from the chart you can see that there has been an increase in nuclear *production* but that has been increased capacity rather than displacement of petroleum.

2019-09-24 01:14:43 UTC  

And there has been a decrease in net carbon output but again that's mostly due to NatGas and two cycle turbines.

2019-09-24 01:42:27 UTC  

the fuck is lignite

2019-09-24 01:49:38 UTC  

A form of coal

2019-09-24 02:03:26 UTC  

So hard coal is gone

2019-09-24 02:04:07 UTC  

I think the difference is mine comes from a site that tracks global energy production. And yours comes from an advocacy site that promotes 'journalism for the great energy transition'....

2019-09-24 02:04:32 UTC  

But hard coal isn't as plentiful anyways

2019-09-24 02:05:04 UTC  

The US keeps strategic reserves unmined

2019-09-24 02:05:09 UTC  

At a glance I would say they were using the capacity numbers for German solar. The capacity is great. If the sun shines on the panels. Which most of the time it does not.

2019-09-24 02:06:14 UTC  

if we could find a way to harness directionless kinetic energy, we could energize tectonically unstable regions

2019-09-24 02:06:42 UTC  

Or gravity weapons

2019-09-24 02:07:15 UTC  

You use gravity to accelerate dense material into megaton bombs

2019-09-24 02:07:33 UTC  

I meant harnessing incoming kinetic energy, not projecting it or, in fact, bending physical gravitons, which is not really anywhere near the field