Message from @Mooncrest
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Yes correct
We can synthesize cholesterol from mono and polyunsaturated fats as well
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In fact if you overdo the mono/polyunsaturated fats your cholesterol woll go up as well.
there's other parhways for the endogenous synthesis of cholesterol
Tbh I think that the (powers that be) are in bed with animal agriculture too
and yes vegans do politicize it and it has become a weapon of the left
but I don't think plant-based nutrition is guilty of anything other than association
You get more fat in the diet from using polys than sats because sats do not penetrate meat as deep as oils do, on top on the oils being more inflammatory causing than any sats are. Sats are eaiser to digest/break down and are necessary to emulsify plant nutrition for absorption.
Which cholesterol goes up and the conjunction of animal protein with the fats such as red meat cuts or eggs also contributes to amino acid synthesis that is *straight up impossible* without the existing proteins degraded and transformed from the meat.
I agree we should avoid oils as well and stick to whole unrefined plant foods
Its majorly guilty of having always been a sympathy of the passive and argument from compassion. The arguments have been moral over dietary for longer and continue to be.
But ALA (plant-omega 3) helps to balance out the bad PUFAs if you're eating flax, chia seeds ect.
The amount of plant material you also have to consume to make up the deficient is so large it isnt realistic both to eat nor produce for every individual.
Omega 3s are good regardless of source. Van get them from fish as well. Not fish oil pills though those are again, not complete.
But because of entropy there's significant energy loss focusing it down to cattle. We spend like 80% of our grains on feeding livestock. And again, i dont advocate for the environment
And saturated fat is generally more inflammatory than PUFA, though through a different mechanism.
I also advocate we don't feed the world but we do anyway and have a lot more lives than our countrymen at stake that a plant based dietary economy would genocide untold numbers of people.
Protein is also needed for muscle development and brain growth during child years and well through adolescence.
Animal proteins provide a lot of needed fat for those tissues.
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1516-31802017000200157
>Consumption of saturated fatty acids (SFAs) was related to postprandial upregulation of genes associated with pro-inflammatory pathways in peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs), in comparison with monounsaturated fatty acid (MUFA) or polyunsaturated fatty acid (PUFA) intake. In addition, acute intake of a high-SFA meal also induced a postprandial pro-inflammatory response for several inflammatory genes in subcutaneous adipose tissue. Both high-MUFA and high-PUFA diets showed anti-inflammatory profiles, or at least a less pronounced pro-inflammatory response than did SFA consumption
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27621193/
>The HPA diet resulted in increased brain activation in the basal ganglia compared to the HOA diet as well as **increased secretion of pro-inflammatory cytokines.**
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1140705/
>High intake of saturated fat doubled the risk of Alzheimer's disease, and even moderate intake of trans fat increased the risk by 2 to 3 times.[20] By contrast, higher intake of both polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats was associated with lower risk of developing Alzheimer's disease.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29701155/
>A total of 8630 participants and 633 cases from four independent prospective cohort studies were included in the present meta-analysis. A higher dietary saturated fat intake was significantly associated with an increased risk of 39% and 105% for AD (RR: 1.39; 95% CI: 1.00, 1.94) and dementia (RR: 2.05; 95% CI: 1.06, 3.98), respectively. Dose-response analysis indicated a 4 g/day increment of saturated fat intake was related to 15% higher risk of AD (RR: 1.15; 95% CI: 1.01, 1.31). However, there was no significant association found between dietary intake of total, monounsaturated, polyunsaturated fat and AD or dementia risk.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3520521/
>12%-SF consumption leads to heavier body weights, larger adipocyte size, and greater fat mass than any other diet
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6448040/
>Increased saturated FFAs, observed in obesity and high fat intake models, have an intrinsic pro-inflammatory potential that impacts important cell functions. Fatty acids may activate Toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4) signaling in adipocytes and macrophages and induce inflammatory signaling
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/79/6/969/4690257
>Thus, the results from our study indicate that, in addition to their hypercholesterolemic effects, trans **and saturated fatty acids** exacerbate the risk of cardiovascular disease as a result of their effects on adhesion molecules.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15774905/
> High SFA caused deterioration in FMD compared with high PUFA, MUFA, or CARB diets. Inflammatory responses may also be increased on this diet
sorry lol dont mean to spam thats just my copypasta
after reading a few lines of this your opinion on saturated fat is throw the babe out with the bath water
Exercise is far more impact in prevention of Alzheimer's than diet and one would expect a dieter higher in saturated or trans fats (which is a bad fat regardless amd weighs the results) means that those studied may not have been co trolled for exercise
high is used atleasst 5 times in this copy pasta
I meant to finish that, fatter diets and people ewuals less physical activity
almost as if to say excess
I don't think exercise is going to confound that data. Exercise is important, but diet has a much steeper effect on health.
Not when you're talking about cognitive diseases
but your agruing for none and using an extreme to argue your case for you
Isn't it also interesting how Nigerians, who have some of the highest incidence of the APOE4 (alzheimers-promoting) gene among their population have some of the lowest rates of Alzheimer's in the world (they eat mostly a low-fat plant-based diet). Many physicians have suggested the pathology of Alzheimer's and Vascular dementia to be similar, and even Dr. Alzheimer himself noted significant atheroschlerotic changes within the vascular system of the brain in his first patient.
And APOE4 is the primary cholesterol carrier in the brain
But a point I made awhile ago was that you have to take the individual into account. Perhaps there are individuals whose work and lifestyle makes the plant focused or dominant diet more beneficial due to their nutrition profiles, daily requirements, physical activities, and genetic metabolic disposition could seriously make eatimg meat bad news or overly burdensome
Well yeah
So while I disagree plant based will ever be optimum for human society I will not say it isn't a possible option for those whom it suits
Because juat developmentally you are going to be comitting child avuse via starvikg of nutrition during developing spurts
At least that is a personal take
Phone is dying hard might take a sec to set up laptop
I mean sure
maybe you could argue during your growth spurts it can help to have the added igf1 from eggs and meat
but I think its a performance vs longevity thing