Message from @Mooncrest

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2019-09-30 20:47:39 UTC  

an ad hominem is when you say, "Your argument is wrong because you're an idiot." not "your argument is wrong and it makes you look like an idiot."

2019-09-30 20:48:03 UTC  

Like when I said you were spouting jargon out of confirmation bias

2019-09-30 20:48:09 UTC  

Which you havent disproven

2019-09-30 20:48:23 UTC  

The former is vested in the latter..

2019-09-30 20:50:09 UTC  

That doesnt make it the same thing

2019-09-30 20:50:18 UTC  

Its not an ad hominem by definition

2019-09-30 20:50:21 UTC  

Douchebag is

2019-09-30 20:50:29 UTC  

No its a descriptor

2019-09-30 20:50:35 UTC  

as you say..

2019-09-30 20:50:51 UTC  

But it isnt

2019-09-30 20:50:57 UTC  

Not in the context you were using it

2019-09-30 20:50:58 UTC  

I didn't say "your argument is invalid because you're a douchebag."

2019-09-30 20:51:09 UTC  

or is that only vested when I throw insults?

2019-09-30 20:51:24 UTC  

hypocrit

2019-09-30 20:51:41 UTC  

hypocrite*

2019-09-30 20:52:12 UTC  

This is the intellectual equivilant of "no u"

2019-09-30 20:52:36 UTC  

now he wants to be intellectual..

2019-09-30 20:52:52 UTC  

If I say you look like your are doing something out of confirmation bias and you call me a douchebag that is an ad hominem

2019-09-30 20:53:21 UTC  

If I say your argument makes you look stupid because of the argument not because of YOU that is not an ad hominem

2019-09-30 20:53:35 UTC  

You attacked my character I did not attack yours

2019-09-30 20:53:41 UTC  

No. It was insulting to imply that I looked that stuff up on the spot and was ignorant about what I was talking about. That was an attack. To which I responded..

2019-09-30 20:54:01 UTC  

I was attacking your argument

2019-09-30 20:54:06 UTC  

You attacked my character

2019-09-30 20:54:13 UTC  

Thats the difference

2019-09-30 20:54:29 UTC  

If you are incapable of understanding that this conversation may as well be over

2019-09-30 20:54:47 UTC  

Although this isnt much of a conversation

2019-09-30 20:55:06 UTC  

plausible denyability

2019-09-30 20:55:22 UTC  

> I feel like you googled that and then just regurgitated it to fulfill your confirmation bias without knowing what any of that actually means or implies

yeah because this isn't being a dick at all.

2019-09-30 20:55:39 UTC  

I attacked your argument

2019-09-30 20:55:43 UTC  

You attacked me

2019-09-30 20:55:52 UTC  

There is a difference

2019-09-30 20:56:13 UTC  

I mever said this is all wrong you're an idiot

2019-09-30 20:56:34 UTC  

Lord this is like talking to a wall at this point

2019-09-30 20:56:35 UTC  

No, you told me I had confirmation bias without having a basis. You told me I didn't know what I was talking about. That's an attack.

2019-09-30 20:57:06 UTC  

I said I suspected confirmation bias

2019-09-30 20:57:10 UTC  

It might not be as explicit as calling someone a douchebag, but its still being a dick.

2019-09-30 20:57:15 UTC  

Hence "I feel like X"

2019-09-30 20:57:27 UTC  

Being a dick =/= an ad hominem

2019-09-30 20:58:00 UTC  

I feel like you're a cocksucker.

2019-09-30 20:58:10 UTC  

now your just getting nasty

2019-09-30 20:58:19 UTC  

no its not an attack