Warren may be a little overly optimistic here and there, but she is always willing and prepared to explain exactly how she intends to accomplish everything on her agenda.

That earns my respect, at the very least.

So just ignoring the fact she intends to continue almost everything wrong with current US foreign policy.

Only Trump keeps his promises. I expect Warren to go hard corporatist if she wins.

I don't think so. I take the opposite tack. Waren is what she appears to be an upper-class WASP so removed from economics and life that she believes the theory crafting that occurs at Harvard. Which is to say she is a commie and has tried to 'make the message palatable' but now the gloves are off.

I mean the impeachment, the debates, basically I think the DNC knows they are losing. So they figure it's a 1-100 chance to win. Might as well shoot for everything you really want and ignore making yourself seem reasonable. At worst you lose which is the likely outcome anyway. If you win you can claim a mandate for your madness.

*Sigh* I'm a little too tired to respond to the claim made by Wizard, nor the base claim that Warren is a "commie." It feels a little pointless, and I've had a long day.

Nor will I engage the persistent and pathological obsession with viewing everyone with a (D) next to their name as Joseph Stalin's disciple.

except what the DNC really wants isn't that dissimilar from what the RNC wants, just for a different team

Eh, I could believe that last one.

There is corruption in both parties, without a doubt. But the extremes to which people take that... I just can't, y'know?

yeah good luck finding more than a handful of people on this server that don't see "muh left" as the root of all evil and also stubbed toes.

I know, right? Everyone seems to think that the mindset of the average twitter troll or petulant child who is too young to vote anyway is the mindset of everyone on the left, and that is simply untrue.

It is entirely reasonable. 20% of professors in Social Science are Marxists. In Harvard it is likely higher.

whether they genuinely believe that is neither here nor there, its just that they generalise most of the time.

We already know that Warren will lie, to the point of calling her own family racist, when she finds it expedient.

*Sigh* I don't really care what 20% of professors in a certain specific field think; they don't speak for me.

And I don't care to dignify that statement about Warren with a response.

I'm not speaking for you either. You made some aspersion on my estimation of Warren. I'm merely explaining why it is an entirely reasonable assumption on my part.

*sigh*

I don't think it is. You are making very grave assumptions about an entire political party, and to avoid vain arguments about the people's alignment let's assume roughly half of the United States

Or one third, accounting for independents.

Based on 20% of professors in one particular field. The evidence for which, I might add, I have yet to see and cannot evaluate.

this sounds like comminucation error. you both should clarify if you're talking about voter base or politicians and their platforms

I'm talking about both.

Hardly 1/3rd even. About 1/2 of Americans even vote. Much less participate in primary politics.

^

So in a leftist district any sort of extremist socialist can attain office and gain ground in party politics.

If I were to run for office tomorrow, I would still be - good point about the amount of individuals engaged in politics - the same person I am now.

The same is true of Republicans, you know.

And again I can go back to my original point. If 'Democratic Socialists' merely want police, firemen, and roads *we have that already* so clearly their real aim is to increase socialism *beyond this*.

Yes, of course it is. But more socialism than we have now =/= COMMUNIST RUSSIA, COMRADEZ

I'd also point out I did not speak in favor of Republicans. I am appalled by the current state of the DNC however.

I am, too, but Warren is not of the corporate wing; she's far closer to the progressive wing.

Oh yes the Progressives. The folks who wanted to toss our constitution into the dutbin of history right? No thank you.

The AOCs and the like who are fighting against things like money in politics.

we crack babies because we born in the 80s they AD HD crazies

And cow farts.

Progressivism =/= DEATH TO THE CONSTITUTION. Stop strawmanning.

progressivism is cancer

The cow farts were a goddamn joke.