*Sigh* I don't really care what 20% of professors in a certain specific field think; they don't speak for me.

And I don't care to dignify that statement about Warren with a response.

I'm not speaking for you either. You made some aspersion on my estimation of Warren. I'm merely explaining why it is an entirely reasonable assumption on my part.

*sigh*

I don't think it is. You are making very grave assumptions about an entire political party, and to avoid vain arguments about the people's alignment let's assume roughly half of the United States

Or one third, accounting for independents.

Based on 20% of professors in one particular field. The evidence for which, I might add, I have yet to see and cannot evaluate.

this sounds like comminucation error. you both should clarify if you're talking about voter base or politicians and their platforms

I'm talking about both.

Hardly 1/3rd even. About 1/2 of Americans even vote. Much less participate in primary politics.

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So in a leftist district any sort of extremist socialist can attain office and gain ground in party politics.

If I were to run for office tomorrow, I would still be - good point about the amount of individuals engaged in politics - the same person I am now.

The same is true of Republicans, you know.

And again I can go back to my original point. If 'Democratic Socialists' merely want police, firemen, and roads *we have that already* so clearly their real aim is to increase socialism *beyond this*.

Yes, of course it is. But more socialism than we have now =/= COMMUNIST RUSSIA, COMRADEZ

I'd also point out I did not speak in favor of Republicans. I am appalled by the current state of the DNC however.

I am, too, but Warren is not of the corporate wing; she's far closer to the progressive wing.

Oh yes the Progressives. The folks who wanted to toss our constitution into the dutbin of history right? No thank you.

The AOCs and the like who are fighting against things like money in politics.

we crack babies because we born in the 80s they AD HD crazies

And cow farts.

Progressivism =/= DEATH TO THE CONSTITUTION. Stop strawmanning.

progressivism is cancer

The cow farts were a goddamn joke.

You fecking sycophant.

because it boils down to a marxist view of race

which is highly destructive

That is not a Strawman. The progressives thought that the constitution was a limit to their ability to enforce social engineering. This is US history 101.

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I'll concede that point Occasional Cortex is a joke.

That is absolutely untrue, unless you are referring to some bullshit cult that falsely called themselves progressive or something.

No True Progressive

I'm talking about the American Progressive movement. Again, I will concede, they were and are a cult.

^early 20th century

yes

I'm just going to assume that the information you're presenting is faulty or cherrypicked, 'cause this whole thing reeks of conspiracy theory.

right, no, fuck off. early initial american progressivism was not a fucking socialist cult that it is today. Fuck off with your apocryphal horseshit

put my fucking foot down on this revisionist history bullshit right fucking now

Early progressives were people like Frances Perkins, who led the charge on workplace safety regs after triangle shirtwaist fire

Thank you. Though I disagree with the claim that current progressives are a cult. There are no doubt cultish elements on the far fringes, but the same is true of most political factions.