Message from @Tiberius

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2019-10-04 22:34:23 UTC  

Catching murderers isn't the business of the police?

2019-10-04 22:35:05 UTC  

I don't think giving marriage "meaning" will make responsible people have kids.

2019-10-04 22:35:06 UTC  

Except you cant deprive someone of life

2019-10-04 22:35:19 UTC  

Whether you like it or not an unborn child is a someone

2019-10-04 22:35:29 UTC  

Basic biology states that is a human life

2019-10-04 22:36:27 UTC  

You have to consider why the people we all deem fit to have and raise children aren't doing it. Yes I think some of that has to do with the shit show of marriage but typically those high tier people put off making families because they want to have a certain level of success before they bring a child into the world. That can take time and that breeding strategy doesn't produce many offsprings. The flip side is people who don't care will breed like crazy out breeding those ideal parents who are being responsible.

2019-10-04 22:36:53 UTC  

They are taught to value money over family

2019-10-04 22:36:56 UTC  

I'm not really sure how to fix that though. Maybe offering incentives to successful people to start familiars sooner and have larger ones?

2019-10-04 22:37:07 UTC  

WHich is precisely what no-fault divorce has done

2019-10-04 22:37:07 UTC  

I don't think that's it exactly.

2019-10-04 22:37:15 UTC  

It's taught people that money matters more than family

2019-10-04 22:37:58 UTC  

How on earth has no-fault divorce planted that mindset? If anything it just means removes accountability from marriage. I doubt that has anything to do with why smarter couples on average have fewer children later in life.

2019-10-04 22:38:13 UTC  

See requiring a certain income and mental state would help solve that to some degree

2019-10-04 22:38:27 UTC  

Buuuuut how do you enforce that.

2019-10-04 22:38:44 UTC  

How do you deal with offenders after the fact.

2019-10-04 22:38:51 UTC  

Same way you enforce mandatory vaccines I would suppose

2019-10-04 22:39:02 UTC  

You'd have to sterilize them

2019-10-04 22:39:16 UTC  

Vaccines don't shut people

2019-10-04 22:39:17 UTC  

Some people should be forcibly sterilized

2019-10-04 22:39:20 UTC  

Yeah that sounds a little over reaching. You sound like one of my mates who is always like there should be steralization policy for people of very low IQs

2019-10-04 22:39:29 UTC  

My internal libertarian is screaming

2019-10-04 22:39:40 UTC  

He thinks we should pay low IQ people a lot of money to be steralized. Which I just think is insane

2019-10-04 22:39:46 UTC  

But my machiavellian realist is strangling him atm

2019-10-04 22:39:53 UTC  

I understand the logic but that's crazy.

2019-10-04 22:39:59 UTC  

You have no way of enforcing stuff like that

2019-10-04 22:40:03 UTC  

And it wouldn't be right to do so

2019-10-04 22:40:24 UTC  

Paying people to live who are too dumb to live is not sustainable. You need too big of a government to do that, and to have that big of a government, nobody would have any money so they'd all be under that decree.

2019-10-04 22:40:33 UTC  

And then you could just life and death with anyone you wanted

2019-10-04 22:40:40 UTC  

what do you know communist hellhole

2019-10-04 22:40:57 UTC  

I don't think anyone is saying pay stupid people not to live.

2019-10-04 22:41:01 UTC  

Because you wanted to decide who lives and who dies because you think some people are stupid.

2019-10-04 22:41:03 UTC  

They are saying pay stupid people not to breed

2019-10-04 22:41:14 UTC  

So either dismantle The Great Society, or make it easier to opt out of Welfare.

2019-10-04 22:41:20 UTC  

Which sounds okay in concept but is morally wrong.

2019-10-04 22:41:22 UTC  

But how are the women going to respond to that?

2019-10-04 22:41:32 UTC  

Their biological instinct and purpose is to breed.

2019-10-04 22:41:42 UTC  

Or just get rid of the welfare incentives for pumping welps out of your axe wound

2019-10-04 22:41:43 UTC  

What is a dumb woman with no family going to do with herself?

2019-10-04 22:41:50 UTC  

With this highest value mate. Women want to breed with the highest value mate.

2019-10-04 22:42:02 UTC  

Make Married people with Families and Jobs more applicable for Welfare.

2019-10-04 22:42:08 UTC  

I think they'd steer clear of the sterlized low IQ masses theoretically