Message from @Fuksias
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DOD
DHS etc
Just make divorce illegal and the solve itself
That is somehow worse than what I suggested
Good job
Id like to see the fuckery this could cause in a corrupt government
Libertarians are not a monolith
If anything
Really? You don't think the source of crack whores is broken families that divorce for selfish reasons? Because they were given divorce as a safety net so they could marry for selfish reasons?
Some libertarians are examples of why certain peopme shouldnt breed
Pleasure-seeking and selfishness is whats leads people to drugs
You are ignoring the source of the problem
So you want to make divorce illegal?
Pleasure seeking isnt the only reason people marry the wrong person
Some people are young
Some people drift apart
Yeah, people marry rich guys so they can divorce them and take their loot.
Some people become alcohol addicted wife beaters
I'm just not comfortable giving the state power to intercede in what is arguably one of if not the most personal and sovereign actions in human existence
Divorce is illegal, people marry for real reasons again
same reason anti-abortion crusaders are honestly anti-liberty
Because how dare you not want to murder children?
they want the state to step in and make a decision that ultimately isn't theirs to make
simple as that
The thing that used to be illegal/frowned upon in this system was childbirth outside of marriage.
Aka combining the two of your ideas
doesn't matter a fuck if you or I don't like it, its not the business of the state
If you want to make sure that only responsible people have kids, the best way to do that is to make marriage mean something and actually be binding rather than some pump and dump on your taxes
Catching murderers isn't the business of the police?
I don't think giving marriage "meaning" will make responsible people have kids.
Except you cant deprive someone of life
Whether you like it or not an unborn child is a someone
Basic biology states that is a human life
You have to consider why the people we all deem fit to have and raise children aren't doing it. Yes I think some of that has to do with the shit show of marriage but typically those high tier people put off making families because they want to have a certain level of success before they bring a child into the world. That can take time and that breeding strategy doesn't produce many offsprings. The flip side is people who don't care will breed like crazy out breeding those ideal parents who are being responsible.
They are taught to value money over family
I'm not really sure how to fix that though. Maybe offering incentives to successful people to start familiars sooner and have larger ones?
WHich is precisely what no-fault divorce has done
I don't think that's it exactly.
It's taught people that money matters more than family
How on earth has no-fault divorce planted that mindset? If anything it just means removes accountability from marriage. I doubt that has anything to do with why smarter couples on average have fewer children later in life.
See requiring a certain income and mental state would help solve that to some degree