Message from @Jake the Exile

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2019-10-04 22:39:59 UTC  

You have no way of enforcing stuff like that

2019-10-04 22:40:03 UTC  

And it wouldn't be right to do so

2019-10-04 22:40:24 UTC  

Paying people to live who are too dumb to live is not sustainable. You need too big of a government to do that, and to have that big of a government, nobody would have any money so they'd all be under that decree.

2019-10-04 22:40:33 UTC  

And then you could just life and death with anyone you wanted

2019-10-04 22:40:40 UTC  

what do you know communist hellhole

2019-10-04 22:40:57 UTC  

I don't think anyone is saying pay stupid people not to live.

2019-10-04 22:41:01 UTC  

Because you wanted to decide who lives and who dies because you think some people are stupid.

2019-10-04 22:41:03 UTC  

They are saying pay stupid people not to breed

2019-10-04 22:41:14 UTC  

So either dismantle The Great Society, or make it easier to opt out of Welfare.

2019-10-04 22:41:20 UTC  

Which sounds okay in concept but is morally wrong.

2019-10-04 22:41:22 UTC  

But how are the women going to respond to that?

2019-10-04 22:41:32 UTC  

Their biological instinct and purpose is to breed.

2019-10-04 22:41:42 UTC  

Or just get rid of the welfare incentives for pumping welps out of your axe wound

2019-10-04 22:41:43 UTC  

What is a dumb woman with no family going to do with herself?

2019-10-04 22:41:50 UTC  

With this highest value mate. Women want to breed with the highest value mate.

2019-10-04 22:42:02 UTC  

Make Married people with Families and Jobs more applicable for Welfare.

2019-10-04 22:42:08 UTC  

I think they'd steer clear of the sterlized low IQ masses theoretically

2019-10-04 22:42:10 UTC  

Single Mother's need to get hitched.

2019-10-04 22:42:27 UTC  

Also check for Citizenship.

2019-10-04 22:42:40 UTC  

@Ankha I think that's a good ideal. But I wouldn't call it welfare

2019-10-04 22:42:44 UTC  

Married families that are productive can exist without the state. They don't need welfare.

2019-10-04 22:42:49 UTC  

It would just be incentivising people to do good things.

2019-10-04 22:42:57 UTC  

Big time

2019-10-04 22:42:58 UTC  

Like get married, Stay together, Have stable jobs, etc.

2019-10-04 22:43:00 UTC  

The easiest thing to do would be to shut down welfare entirely and let the "dumb" people wise up.

2019-10-04 22:43:02 UTC  

Maybe they can get a Tax Cut via the Program.

2019-10-04 22:43:16 UTC  

We typically reward bad behavior and punish people doing "the good stuff"

2019-10-04 22:43:17 UTC  

People get a lot more clever when they have to to survive.

2019-10-04 22:43:19 UTC  

But be penalized for committing crimes.

2019-10-04 22:43:43 UTC  

Or they become criminals

2019-10-04 22:44:20 UTC  

You have to be careful @Ankha Thats getting into social credit system territory. We already punish people for break the law and stuff. No need to take it a step further.

2019-10-04 22:44:35 UTC  

Currently the justification for the system that we have is that our surplus of food is easier to give from than the coffers, so it's not as much of a tangible net loss as the numbers would suggest, and they have the benefit of keeping these people mostly pacified.

2019-10-04 22:44:37 UTC  

I didn't say disband The Dollar.

2019-10-04 22:44:41 UTC  

Inducing a survival scenario on dumb people while other people flourish the next neighborhood over is a good way to up the murder rate

2019-10-04 22:44:48 UTC  

Hell, Fuck the Federal Reserve and Fiat Currency.

2019-10-04 22:44:56 UTC  

^

2019-10-04 22:45:13 UTC  

It could just get people to use coupons and not be stupid with the free worthless money you give them

2019-10-04 22:45:18 UTC  

I don't think anyone it suggesting inducing a survival scenario.

2019-10-04 22:45:19 UTC  

I think we need to **De**flate The Dollar.

2019-10-04 22:45:35 UTC  

Thats precisely what jake said

2019-10-04 22:45:38 UTC  

You just have to make it appealing to the responsible people to do things that will help society.