Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-10-10 18:17:45 UTC  

that goes for any sort of representative

2019-10-10 18:17:49 UTC  

Impeachment? What? @Wizard_of_The_West

2019-10-10 18:17:57 UTC  

He is bound by the will of the people kek

2019-10-10 18:18:05 UTC  

@Nathan James 123 That's not the intent of impeachment

2019-10-10 18:18:07 UTC  

And now watch Mitch McConnel just say out loud "yeah, we lied our asses off about why we didn't have a hearing and sat on our asses. deal with it"

2019-10-10 18:18:14 UTC  

Yet the ability is there <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-10-10 18:18:18 UTC  

So in reality, he is.

2019-10-10 18:18:26 UTC  

in any case executive power is where real political power lies

2019-10-10 18:18:37 UTC  

Impeachment is for when the President abandons his Oath or uses his powers to corrupt the intent of his office.

2019-10-10 18:19:15 UTC  

i mean from a technical standpoint you could argue the most powerful position in the US govt. is speaker of the house; they get control over a lot of things

2019-10-10 18:19:41 UTC  

especially with regards to money

2019-10-10 18:19:43 UTC  

iirc

2019-10-10 18:20:04 UTC  

yeah no thats right; all revenue bills have to come from the house

2019-10-10 18:20:07 UTC  

most powerful position in the us isn't in the government

2019-10-10 18:20:22 UTC  

thats a whole other issue

2019-10-10 18:20:49 UTC  

we need to get money out of our political system ASAP; one of the few things i agree with AOC on

2019-10-10 18:21:20 UTC  

gluck

2019-10-10 18:21:32 UTC  

dont worry it wont happen

2019-10-10 18:21:35 UTC  

oh yeah, how's that AOC/Ted Cruz lobbyist regulation going?

2019-10-10 18:21:35 UTC  

Not really. You just need to add some limits on it @W1NT3R1SC0MING

2019-10-10 18:21:41 UTC  

Lobbying is a legitimate thing

2019-10-10 18:21:42 UTC  

The Executive was definitely muted with the establishment of merit based civil servant system. So instead of everyone being subject to political changes only the more senior levels can be replaced willy nilly.

2019-10-10 18:21:42 UTC  

and should be

2019-10-10 18:21:51 UTC  

Money isn't the problem at all

2019-10-10 18:22:02 UTC  

Just adopt UK policy and make everything public

2019-10-10 18:22:05 UTC  

It's that lobbying is profitable

2019-10-10 18:22:11 UTC  

Lobbying is by definition competing against the will of the electorate with money

2019-10-10 18:22:15 UTC  

Make it easy for the news to rail into people for the money they recieve

2019-10-10 18:22:24 UTC  

If it's not declared, it's illegal

2019-10-10 18:22:24 UTC  

If civil servants opposed the Administrations goals objectively they should be fired.

2019-10-10 18:22:25 UTC  

Simple as.

2019-10-10 18:22:55 UTC  

the issue is the people writing the campaign finance laws and tax codes are also being paid off to put in the loopholes

2019-10-10 18:22:59 UTC  

If they are doing their job and that in itself opposes the administration then that sounds like a whistleblower in the making.

2019-10-10 18:23:09 UTC  

it all needs to go to ensure the will of the electorate is their only concern

2019-10-10 18:23:16 UTC  

Just forcing people to make it all public will get around that

2019-10-10 18:23:26 UTC  

They literally pay money to achieve what they can't with votes or winning arguments. its not legitimate.

2019-10-10 18:23:31 UTC  

Giving any kind of item or money to a politician must be declared

2019-10-10 18:23:58 UTC  

The merit system created a new aristocracy and as we've seen recently from the Russia investigation it hasn't matured well.

2019-10-10 18:24:21 UTC  

Love British politics. I get the feeling during a heated debate the Queen would rush into the room and start beating people with her mace as commentators scream from the outer seats.

2019-10-10 18:24:29 UTC  

youre missing the point. even if they do that, the people who write the laws are being paid off to begin with. even if they force people to make it public, they will find a way around that to continue donating large sums behind closed doors

2019-10-10 18:24:45 UTC  

Than that will be illegal