Message from @Killzone

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2019-10-13 10:26:31 UTC  

her professed positions in the past as far as i'm aware don't conflict with the position she is taking now on this issue

2019-10-13 10:26:41 UTC  

perhaps the fantasy people have conjured in their heads does

2019-10-13 10:27:59 UTC  

also that article was extraordinarily cancerous and you owe me for making me read that trash

2019-10-13 10:28:12 UTC  

since you're a libertarian i'll be willing to accept payment in gold or bitcoin

2019-10-13 10:49:03 UTC  

Her stance conflicts directly with what she said

2019-10-13 11:28:02 UTC  

how so? the purpose, at least the stated one, behind opposing this move isn't because it interferes with syrian regime change

2019-10-13 11:28:17 UTC  

perhaps it is an opportunistic jab at trump, but that doesn't make it contradictory

2019-10-13 13:57:45 UTC  

Tulsi: US Troops need to leave Afghanistan; we have no reason to be there
Also Tulsi: WE SHOULDN'T HAVE LEFT SYRIA, THEIR BLOOD IS ON TRUMP'S HANDS

2019-10-13 14:02:37 UTC  

This extends beyond Tulsi. Being "against war" is a nice ill-defined slogan that appeals to some voters. It is not a plan or even a policy. What I want (so far as foreign policy) and have not seen from anyone (including the President) is a plan or goal for withdrawal. ISIS is a great example of how leaving can make things worse.

2019-10-13 14:04:35 UTC  

<:poggers:583775485620781087> <:poggers:583775485620781087> <:poggers:583775485620781087>

https://pluralist.com/hunter-biden-steps-down-from-board-of-chinese-firm/49999

2019-10-13 14:46:03 UTC  

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh, book burning when anyone does it just rubs me the wrong way

2019-10-13 14:46:31 UTC  

Understandable

2019-10-13 14:47:15 UTC  

like in a private fireplace or bonfire, fair enough, but as a public display? ick

2019-10-13 14:48:24 UTC  

@FHX Beaver Hate what?

2019-10-13 16:13:35 UTC  

@Nathan James 123 Hope not hate! Hope NOT HATE you fuckin' NAZI

2019-10-13 16:17:12 UTC  

I hope for many things!

2019-10-13 16:17:49 UTC  

I hope you get run over by patriot prayer nazi's

2019-10-13 16:29:27 UTC  

Love how the log is going through the bears ass

2019-10-13 16:59:51 UTC  

Wonder how they got those Coordinates <:thunk:462282216467333140> <:thunk:462282216467333140> <:thunk:462282216467333140>

http://dlvr.it/RG67PP

2019-10-13 17:03:31 UTC  

Oh dear, I wonder why Turkey is doing this

2019-10-13 17:03:34 UTC  

Could it be this: "Turkey began its incursion into Syria, with the Trump Administration’s blessing" ?

2019-10-13 17:09:52 UTC  

are you being sarcastic or are you implying that trump wanted erdogan to kill americans? i have to ask because there are so many retarded opinions on this conflict that it's impossible to tell when someone is being sarcastic as opposed to merely stupid.

2019-10-13 17:10:43 UTC  

He's serious

2019-10-13 17:14:12 UTC  

He believes that our presence in Northern Syria was the only thing keeping Turkey from bombing the Kurds

2019-10-13 17:14:26 UTC  

As evidenced by the bombs

2019-10-13 17:18:04 UTC  

They probably will bomb Kurds. Erdogan is a shithead who has cleansed the officer corps of anyone who is not similarly a shithead.

2019-10-13 17:18:25 UTC  

The real question is, why do Americans have to act as meatshields for Kurds?

2019-10-13 17:20:23 UTC  

One of the greatest foreign policy blunders of the Obama administration was not assassinating Erdogan. The guy is a complete arse. Yet the central point remains: why the fuck are we even there?

2019-10-13 17:21:30 UTC  

What vital strategic importance does Northern Syria have to the United States? Before the Syrian civil war started we gave exactly ZERO SHITS about the region. Why do we have to care now?

2019-10-13 17:23:31 UTC  

The Russians have had air bases and naval bases in Syria for longer than anyone in this server was alive, and nobody cared. The region has no strategic importance to us.

2019-10-13 17:24:32 UTC  

So again, why do we get the dubious honor of being meatshields for the Kurds?

2019-10-13 17:25:17 UTC  

The correct response to this Turkish aggression is not to go to war with Turkey, but to kick them out of NATO.

2019-10-13 17:25:31 UTC  

They're a liability to the alliance.

2019-10-13 17:30:21 UTC  

People are brainwashed into utilitarianism, so they believe it's the ethical choice to protect lives that are in every way unrelated to one's own nation, even if that comes at a net cost, and even if it means playing global police.

2019-10-13 17:31:17 UTC  

It's very easy to buy into the lie that utilitarianism is somehow morally superior to all other ideas.

2019-10-13 17:34:28 UTC  

Such people, if they're not radically utilitarian, typically arguethat "even if we can't save all people in the world, at least we should save some people", which on a surface level holds up, but when you mention that you have to sacrifice some lives in order to save others, then their position falls apart.