Are you saying the Tories aren't UK citizens?

So the sign is trying to say that if people wote labour, there's gonna be mass killings? That's probably better campaign goal than most parties have.

"Killed?"

By what?

Or whom?

Is that just the number of people who have died from all causes since Theresa May became PM?

Clearly it is the responibility of the PM to prevent death from ever happening

Indeed

watching Carl's latest vid on the ISIS girl.
I am by no means suggesting she is inncocent or that she shouldn't face treason charges.
But I wonder what you guys think about the idea that the British government has a level of responsibility for what happened. Since the British government has not been facilitating integration and instead it seems deliberately creating middle eastern bubbles within its cities.
She was young and obviously brainwashed. But if the British government had actively tried to prevent islamic ghettos in their cities perhaps she wouldn't have been islamified.

Once again, not justification for her own individual choices, just a suggestion that this could have been avoided.

Just a thought, eager to hear what you guys, particularly Brits, think about this.

It would be the fault of the local councils, not the 'government' I imagine you're thinking (PM and cabinate).

I can agree with you to some extent, the council she was living under failed to prevent this case and many others.

The governments responsibility honestly is giving her the death penalty and executing her.

If it were legal and I were asked to perform the execution, I would do it myself.

I definitely don't have a good grasp of your government infrastructure so I don't know the right words to use.
Also I agree that she is a traitor and should recieve whatever punishment is associated with that.

Moreover I reckon what I'm asking is what can or should government (at any level) or society do to prevent this from happening.

Local councils which are elected through local elections are the ones that do the day-to-day running of their local area. Think, states. The 'government' comes from elected MPs and run the country.

If there was anyone that could have had the greatest influence over her, it would have been the local council.

Not to be pedantic but doesn't the word government cover local municipalities as well?

if it was that rightful law that she should be allowed back in, then unfortunately we should. Thankfully that is not currently the case and she can get fucking bent. Both her and her parents for allowing her to do such a treasonous thing within our country

True it does, but it's often used to simply describe the current ruling party

Not *everything*

More often than not in the UK, this is what people think when someone says "government"

What can be done about it?

Tough question.

or what should be

easy to come up with draconian answers

*What should be?* Mass deportation and striping their citizenship

Will that happen? No.

putting that aside, for the sake of arguement lets say who is in your country stays.
how do you de-islamify areas?

You push for British ideas and Values

how though?

you make it unacceptable to want to undermine them

Though you guys have it much worse there are pockets of islam in the US as well. so I'm curious how one could fix it.

Giving schools more power to punish parents whom prevent their children from attending school. Pushing harder to educate them in 'British values'. Attempt to breakup their ghettos through moving more people into the area (cultural / ethnic gentrification). Banning Halal and Koshur slaughter of animals. Being more restrictive in the building of local places of worship.

To name a few.

It is fine to have your religion and practice it. Yet if you do anything to counter what the country you are living is in and stands for, Then that shouldnt be allwoed

Basically. Indoctrinate their young to think like us. Make it harder for them to practice their religion.

Because we are just that much better then them. We do not allow the condoning of their deaths. Unlike what they would do to us

From a tactical standpoint that makes since, but doesn't forcing people out of their religion go against the rights of the individual?

inb4 don't let them in in the first place. obviously that's the best solution.

If you care about the rights of the individual then you need to be fine with them practicing their religion

And you will never solve the issue.

Simple as.