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2019-09-29 16:06:17 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

watching Carl's latest vid on the ISIS girl.
I am by no means suggesting she is inncocent or that she shouldn't face treason charges.
But I wonder what you guys think about the idea that the British government has a level of responsibility for what happened. Since the British government has not been facilitating integration and instead it seems deliberately creating middle eastern bubbles within its cities.
She was young and obviously brainwashed. But if the British government had actively tried to prevent islamic ghettos in their cities perhaps she wouldn't have been islamified.

Once again, not justification for her own individual choices, just a suggestion that this could have been avoided.

Just a thought, eager to hear what you guys, particularly Brits, think about this.

2019-09-29 16:17:35 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

I definitely don't have a good grasp of your government infrastructure so I don't know the right words to use.
Also I agree that she is a traitor and should recieve whatever punishment is associated with that.

Moreover I reckon what I'm asking is what can or should government (at any level) or society do to prevent this from happening.

2019-09-29 16:19:26 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Not to be pedantic but doesn't the word government cover local municipalities as well?

2019-09-29 16:20:37 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

or what should be

2019-09-29 16:20:51 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

easy to come up with draconian answers

2019-09-29 16:21:44 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

putting that aside, for the sake of arguement lets say who is in your country stays.
how do you de-islamify areas?

2019-09-29 16:22:31 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

how though?

2019-09-29 16:23:10 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Though you guys have it much worse there are pockets of islam in the US as well. so I'm curious how one could fix it.

2019-09-29 16:25:37 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

From a tactical standpoint that makes since, but doesn't forcing people out of their religion go against the rights of the individual?

inb4 don't let them in in the first place. obviously that's the best solution.

2019-09-29 16:27:04 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

do you not think there is a middle ground to be had?

A place where we can uphold the values of individual rights, but still curb the spread of islamification?

2019-09-29 16:28:36 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Please don't take offence that I hope you are both wrong.

2019-09-29 16:30:46 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Well where does it stop then? This is why I hope you're wrong. This path leads down to purity tests and jailing for wrong think

2019-09-29 16:31:54 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Lol you have more faith in the integrity of government than I do

2019-09-29 16:32:00 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

@Mavalance I agree with that

2019-09-29 16:32:25 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

Yeah your supreme court is doing great for you guys

2019-09-29 16:33:27 UTC [Athens #uk_politics]  

alright well I gotta head out. Throw some tea in a harbor and launch fireworks. typical American things. Have a good one.

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