Message from @system11

Discord ID: 628562233399705611


2019-10-01 11:58:32 UTC  

Because the prorogation was too long

2019-10-01 11:58:40 UTC  

It's literally that simple

2019-10-01 11:58:43 UTC  

that leaflet was what tipped me over into voting out

2019-10-01 11:58:53 UTC  

which goes against our principles, retroactive prosecution is awful

2019-10-01 11:59:14 UTC  

(even if the prosecution isn't a criminal one)

2019-10-01 11:59:18 UTC  

And if anything it was his legal advice

2019-10-01 11:59:34 UTC  

yep

2019-10-01 11:59:48 UTC  

also, this kind of thing is creating support for him

2019-10-01 11:59:53 UTC  

so, short term losses?

2019-10-01 12:00:01 UTC  

maybe aiming for long term power?

2019-10-01 12:00:14 UTC  

I have no fucking idea, I don't think anyone does, it's all a speculation game now

2019-10-01 12:00:33 UTC  

the supreme court together with bercow have thrown out all precedent

2019-10-01 12:00:41 UTC  

When the elites fail to enforce the will of the people

2019-10-01 12:00:45 UTC  

The populists come

2019-10-01 12:00:56 UTC  

And when the populists fail to deliver concrete chnage

2019-10-01 12:00:59 UTC  

The elites come

2019-10-01 12:01:06 UTC  

And thus it cycles

2019-10-01 12:01:16 UTC  

I think the term populist is an oxymoron - wouldn't anyone who wins by popular vote by definition be populist?

2019-10-01 12:01:45 UTC  

Populists are very defined though

2019-10-01 12:01:50 UTC  

You can identify them

2019-10-01 12:01:54 UTC  

Yes it's a shitty label

2019-10-01 12:02:04 UTC  

But yeah

2019-10-01 12:02:21 UTC  

The elitists have failed in the USA and the UK

2019-10-01 12:02:27 UTC  

And now the populists are rocking up

2019-10-01 12:02:34 UTC  

And they are kicking and screaming

2019-10-01 12:02:55 UTC  

Eventually it will turn back

2019-10-01 12:03:03 UTC  

I trust populists more, at least they're brazen in lying

2019-10-01 12:03:22 UTC  

If we mean populist politicians

2019-10-01 12:03:43 UTC  

There is a place for both

2019-10-01 12:03:59 UTC  

But at the end of the day there's little difference because all politicians lie for votes

2019-10-01 12:04:02 UTC  

what's the populists we're talking about then?

2019-10-01 12:04:04 UTC  

When the populists start to not institute and real changes or policies to maintain popularity

2019-10-01 12:04:19 UTC  

can you give me a good definition to work with?

2019-10-01 12:04:30 UTC  

^ asking in good faith, not a trap

2019-10-01 12:04:31 UTC  

So it could be said all politicians are populists

2019-10-01 12:04:36 UTC  

Someone who were to listen to people

2019-10-01 12:04:37 UTC  

that's what I said

2019-10-01 12:04:39 UTC  

Over advisors

2019-10-01 12:04:43 UTC  

Or other countries etc

2019-10-01 12:04:43 UTC  

oh

2019-10-01 12:04:49 UTC  

Populists are usually more nationalist