When the populists start to not institute and real changes or policies to maintain popularity

can you give me a good definition to work with?

^ asking in good faith, not a trap

So it could be said all politicians are populists

Someone who were to listen to people

that's what I said

Over advisors

Or other countries etc

oh

Populists are usually more nationalist

More dedicated to their home country, their peoples

isn't that just non milk toast non-centrists?

You can take it to the extremes of course

I just described a general populist

There's an insinuation that populists tell the people what they want to hear, but they all do that anyway

You can have a populist that never does anything, gives the people everything for free

Crippling the country

Just for votes

That's extreme

Corbyn

nah, corbyn is ideaolical

Sometimes you need an elite to do what is nessisary

everything for free is part of that

Such as in war

Which is why it cycles

When one becomes ineffective for whatever reason

The elite isn't very elite though, half the backbenches are barely qualified to manage a tea shop

The other takes over

You don't need qualifications to be an elite

Just power

And the way you wield it

depends what you call the elite tho

You can wield it either as a popular or as an elite

elite as in the people outside of parl who are in the elite class, then enter parl

sit as an elitist

rather than as a populist

An elite would institute a policy that only 15% of people agree with because it will help out

But they can also use that mentality to do the opposite

And do it to screw people over

A populist will listen to what the people want sometimes to a fault

For example if you always did what you wanted youd be 30 stone