but we already have laws about that

People shouldn't beat their kids at all, There are different ways to teach right and wrong other then attacking them

spanking isnt beating

They are similar

imagine thinking spanking is beating

And the intention is the same

@The Electric Lizard Yes, Grandma

your wife must really not be into anythign slightly more ranchy than missionary

You are using pain as a way to make someone act how you want them to act

@Benjamin Henry It really isn't that irregular to oppose it

wow, pain is a way to show how something is negative

i wonder if we do this in other places

a slap on the backside is not the same thing as beating someone

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@The Electric Lizard It's also none of your concern, unless the kid actually gets injured

So everyone should just follow rules out of fear of pain? @notaglobe

that's some autistic reductionism

until theyre old enough to have a reasoned discussion and follow the rules, yes

I disagree

ok

then you disagree

@The Electric Lizard Statist

I am not even close to it, This is one of the only issues that i am not Libertarian on

neo libertarian

sometimes libertarian

sometimes not

the problem is the state found it necessary to step in because for every 9 parents who understand the when and why to administer a smack, theres one that just hits the children as soon as they dont get their way, and frankly they shouldnt be parents to begin with

wild

No, I support Libertarianism on the vast majority of issues, this is just one of the exceptions

@system11 suggests a problem in the population at large rather than with how people raise their children

https://youtu.be/4NXFCDgyanA?list=RD4NXFCDgyanA

scottish people are crazy angry

new news

@system11 Yes but we have to have some kind of law preventing parents from either using beating far too often or using it as the only way to make a child do as they are told, Parents should instil a sense of right and wrong which doesn't have to be done through pain and fear

correct

however outlawing a method entirely is just moronic

@The Electric Lizard Not your call

It should be

its a valid tool, not the only valid tool

lets ban the cars next because people drink and drive is just as stupid

Some parents cannot parent properly and we should have laws preventing them from doing it in reckless and generally bad ways @Benjamin Henry