Message from @Benjamin Henry
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And it's not that clear that people with high IQ scores are even legitimately more intelligent
They may just be better at taking IQ tests
yeah they're better at taking a test that measures your ability to apply abstract reasoning to problems
In the particular method of IQ tests, yes
You could probably make the same observations about people who can clap their hands faster
what observations
About economic success
we don't have the data on the relative hand clapping speed of black and white people
You could make the claim about people with green eyes
Or red hair
so this is irrelevant
Or one leg that's longer than the other
Yeah, your data is junk, is what I'm saying - it's statistical noise
how is it statistical noise
Or, at least, you can't necessarily show a causal connection
You can show a CORRELATION
i can't necessarily show a causal connection between what
Do I have to quote you back to yourself?
you can just specify what you're talking about
You're saying: black people have lower IQs (in general)
You're saying: therefore being black leads to poverty
more or less
Those arguments don't follow
They're not connected in the way you think they are
I'm trying to show you how they can be correlated, and not part of a causal chain
yeah they can be
But they aren't
they are correlated
Correlated, yes
Not necessarily caused
not necessarily caused
but i believe that they are
That's your perspective. I don't think they are
Maybe show something more than just opinion then?
i think the causal link between iq and economic success is clear
It's absolutely not clear
iq measures abstract reasoning, a tool that is useful in many high paying professions
In order to prove causation, you have to show the direct link between being good at taking IQ tests to making more money
show the direct link how