Message from @Death in June
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No, you just don't like me pointing out the flaw in your statistics
you're not pointing out a flaw
People who have tattoos are more successful
i mean, other than in the sense that the statistic taken by itself doesn't *necessarily* prove what i am saying it does
People who break a bone as a child are more successful
and again with the false equivalences
What's false about them?
because the potential causal link is not as clear with these variables
How are they less valid than your totally non-causal connections?
@Benjamin Henry please find some research if u want to convince June, otherwise ur gonna get nowhere
can you demonstrate a causal link between socioeconomic status and crime in the way that you are asking of me?
(no)
assume the progressive position as the default, and set the burden of proof for the opposing position so high it cannot ever be "proven"
very cliche routine!
Actually, yes. If you or your family has less money, it's just more likely you'll resort to other means to take care of yourself or them. Mazlow's hierarchy of needs
lmao
There's a direct causal relationship there
uh no there's not
you haven't proven this causal relationship exists
If you say so
No, I've given you a causal relationship. You only have correlation
but you haven't demonstrated this causal relationship exists
you've given a potential causal explanation
but you haven't proven that it's real
You have two things that could be decades apart
Also the chart that was linked controlled for that, right?
It was, yes
I didn't see IQ on that chart, btw
so all you have is an attempt to establish a causal relationship through reason? the exact same thing i did with iq and income?
No, not the same - because doing well on IQ tests, as I said, doesn't necessarily measure what you're claiming it measures
All it measures is how good you are at taking IQ tests
yes and being good at iq tests involves how well you are able to apply abstract reasoning and pattern recognition
Or, you could just take them over and over and your score can improve
this is irrelevant to iq statistics in general
I think it's quite relevant
Since the taking of tests in general is a skill you can improve
no because the overwhelming majority of people who comprise the iq statistics we have do not do this
Yea IQ has been proven to be a pretty reliable measure.... certainly reliable enough to not just throw it out. I doubt the people in these studies are avid IQ test takers lol
The percentage of them that are taking the test over and over again as you suggest... is not enough to be statistically significant
IQ tests are easily game-able