People who wore shirt sizes too big for them in high school

anyone remember the movie "The Madness of King George" ? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZvg7SR_DE

Nigel Hawthorne was great in this

Your argument doesn't follow

i don't think these variables are equivalent to iq in this regard

there's a clearer causal link once can deduce through reason with iq

They're exactly as valid as IQ tests

People who wear glasses are more successful

but like a typical progressive, your entire shtick is to assume the progressive position as a default and to set the burden of proof for any opposing position so high it can't be met

People who part their hair in the middle instead of on the side

do you think the causal link between the way one parts their hair and income is as clear as the causal link between a measurement of one's ability to recognize patterns and apply reason and income?

Your argument is like the one that I used to hear about, if your second toe is longer than your big toe, you'll be the head of the household when you grow up

answer the question please

there's only one answer you can give if you're being honest

It's 100% as valid as IQ test scores

so you're dishonest

No, you just don't like me pointing out the flaw in your statistics

you're not pointing out a flaw

People who have tattoos are more successful

i mean, other than in the sense that the statistic taken by itself doesn't *necessarily* prove what i am saying it does

People who break a bone as a child are more successful

and again with the false equivalences

What's false about them?

because the potential causal link is not as clear with these variables

How are they less valid than your totally non-causal connections?

@Benjamin Henry please find some research if u want to convince June, otherwise ur gonna get nowhere

can you demonstrate a causal link between socioeconomic status and crime in the way that you are asking of me?

(no)

assume the progressive position as the default, and set the burden of proof for the opposing position so high it cannot ever be "proven"

very cliche routine!

Actually, yes. If you or your family has less money, it's just more likely you'll resort to other means to take care of yourself or them. Mazlow's hierarchy of needs

lmao

There's a direct causal relationship there

uh no there's not

you haven't proven this causal relationship exists

If you say so

you've just given me the equivalent of what i've given for the causal link between iq and income

No, I've given you a causal relationship. You only have correlation

but you haven't demonstrated this causal relationship exists

you've given a potential causal explanation

but you haven't proven that it's real