Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-10-16 13:45:31 UTC  

maybe property requirements for voting made more sense before the concentration of capital that we've seen starting in the late 19th century

2019-10-16 13:46:00 UTC  

Anyway I'm gonna get because to work

2019-10-16 13:46:04 UTC  

Back*

2019-10-16 13:46:07 UTC  

i'd prefer to have it split between workers, soldiers, and familial councils that meet face to face

2019-10-16 13:46:11 UTC  

@Death in June capital has always been concentrated

2019-10-16 13:46:21 UTC  

with executive power being shared between them and an undemocratic authority

2019-10-16 13:46:30 UTC  

not like it is now

2019-10-16 13:46:32 UTC  

Buisness ownership being a requirement seems fair, if we are talking about breaking up the massive governmental power structures that allow megacorps to grow as large as they have for as long as they have

2019-10-16 13:46:53 UTC  

Regardless, there needs to be more limits on whom can vote

2019-10-16 13:46:53 UTC  

prior to the civil war for example the vast majority of americans were self-employed

2019-10-16 13:47:00 UTC  

it wasn't even really a capitalist country then

2019-10-16 13:47:19 UTC  

because wage labor wasn't a big fixture of the economy

2019-10-16 13:47:30 UTC  

due to the diffuse ownership of capital

2019-10-16 13:47:38 UTC  

Wage labor via contracting is already becoming a thing now

2019-10-16 13:48:08 UTC  

If the regulations that keep small businesses down are broadly removed it would skyrocket.

2019-10-16 13:48:38 UTC  

it's not in the interests of those who initially win market competition to allow competitors to usurp them

2019-10-16 13:50:06 UTC  

Which is why they use government to pull up the ladder behind them. Which is where we are now so at worst we would be back to square one

2019-10-16 13:50:15 UTC  

There are limits on whom can vote, and those limits should be "adult citizens of sound mind"

2019-10-16 13:50:29 UTC  

Why?

2019-10-16 13:50:31 UTC  

Not enough

2019-10-16 13:50:46 UTC  

There's still a chance they don't understand the consequences of their vote @Eccles

2019-10-16 13:50:49 UTC  

Which is the main issue.

2019-10-16 13:51:00 UTC  

I'm not saying you are wrong but you need to argue why it's what it should be Eccles.

2019-10-16 13:51:56 UTC  

if you provide a service to society then you should have political privileges afforded to you based on that service

2019-10-16 13:52:16 UTC  

"Anyone without a college education doesn't understand the consequence of their vote"

2019-10-16 13:52:19 UTC  

Interesting

2019-10-16 13:52:37 UTC  

I mean since you applying a flat limit such as that

2019-10-16 13:52:43 UTC  

You are assuming they don't

2019-10-16 13:52:51 UTC  

It isn't a quote

2019-10-16 13:53:01 UTC  

But it's the result of your thinking

2019-10-16 13:53:13 UTC  

Lower educated areas voted for Brexit.

2019-10-16 13:53:22 UTC  

Lower educated voters mainly voted for Trump.

2019-10-16 13:53:32 UTC  

You point

2019-10-16 13:53:38 UTC  

AHHHH

2019-10-16 13:53:40 UTC  

Now those votes are costing lives.

2019-10-16 13:53:41 UTC  

Kinda proves your education point is bulshit

2019-10-16 13:53:53 UTC  

I see, yours sad you didn't get your own way

2019-10-16 13:53:54 UTC  

Loool

2019-10-16 13:53:58 UTC  

Too bad

2019-10-16 13:54:03 UTC  

Suck it up buttercup

2019-10-16 13:54:18 UTC  

I learnt that when I was 12