Message from @Nathan James 123

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2019-10-16 17:00:12 UTC  

chile did really well after the aylwin administration unfucked it

2019-10-16 17:00:39 UTC  

the idea of distributism really intrigues me

2019-10-16 17:00:51 UTC  

but it sort of seems like something thats impossible to achieve

2019-10-16 17:01:50 UTC  

the problem is that centralized control over resources is more or less a reality for any society that wants to stay competitive

2019-10-16 17:01:59 UTC  

industrial strength translates quite heavily to military strength

2019-10-16 17:02:51 UTC  

especially when you look at china as one of those competitors on the global stage

2019-10-16 17:03:11 UTC  

china is set to overtake the us in industrial capacity pretty soon i think

2019-10-16 17:03:30 UTC  

Some seem to think a collapse is inevitable

2019-10-16 17:03:57 UTC  

but... i dont know.. i sort of doubt that.. The chinese government can do whatever they need to prevent that from happening

2019-10-16 17:05:43 UTC  

i think what is so impressive about china, is that mathematically speaking... if even just half of their population stormed the government buildings.. there wouldnt be enough bullets to stop all the people. Really a flip could happen in less then a week if the people just banded together in massive groups... Sorry but 500 million people storming government buildings and shiz... theres no way they could stop it... but the chinese people will never do that.

2019-10-16 17:06:03 UTC  

The level of suppression that their government has achieved is scary but also impressive.

2019-10-16 17:06:05 UTC  

Why would they storm government buildings though?

2019-10-16 17:06:10 UTC  

QOL is increasing in China

2019-10-16 17:06:16 UTC  

A middle class is forming and expanding

2019-10-16 17:06:26 UTC  

i dunno the china collapse theories i've seen are just rooted in the idea that state planning is going to be their downfall or some such nonsense

2019-10-16 17:06:38 UTC  

i wouldnt trust the numbers coming out of china

2019-10-16 17:06:40 UTC  

on anything

2019-10-16 17:06:48 UTC  

The China collapsing theories are pushed by idiots looking at China from a Western perspective @Death in June

2019-10-16 17:06:53 UTC  

"They don't have freedom!!!!"

2019-10-16 17:06:54 UTC  

>So?

2019-10-16 17:06:59 UTC  

China basically never has had any

2019-10-16 17:07:11 UTC  

What they're getting now is more than any basically in their history

2019-10-16 17:07:12 UTC  

LOL

2019-10-16 17:07:15 UTC  

the chinese seem to have a very positive view of the chinese government from what i can see

2019-10-16 17:07:24 UTC  

^

2019-10-16 17:07:40 UTC  

They have to

2019-10-16 17:07:41 UTC  

yea the thing is they all buy into the whole idea of progressing the chinese people as a whole

2019-10-16 17:07:42 UTC  

the chinese are like ants

2019-10-16 17:07:58 UTC  

They litteraly cannot say they dislike the government

2019-10-16 17:08:05 UTC  

Or they will get in trouble

2019-10-16 17:08:25 UTC  

Oh well

2019-10-16 17:08:25 UTC  

yea true <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898> of course you wont see a chinese person in china.. saying they dislike their gov

2019-10-16 17:08:39 UTC  

they'll get put into a work camp

2019-10-16 17:09:02 UTC  

News in China: Everything is great in China 🙂

2019-10-16 17:09:03 UTC  

Or outside, they have your family even if you somehow get out (like all those Chinese actors who are anti Hong Kong)

2019-10-16 17:09:44 UTC  

And for most of history china was as free as or more free than the west. Probably until the enlightenment period in fact

2019-10-16 17:10:00 UTC  

what do you mean by free

2019-10-16 17:10:17 UTC  

^

2019-10-16 17:12:14 UTC  

I mean, pre modern freedom is always pretty limited, but ability to choose life paths is the most notable difference. Most of the nobility was recruited for most dynasties. Furthermore physical mobility was far more tolerated, as in walking/riding to a different area, which was illegal for many in feudal Europe/Russia.

2019-10-16 17:13:00 UTC  

Which was illegal because you were going into a different country, sure.

2019-10-16 17:13:06 UTC  

Movement was fine because of the massive scale of China