Message from @Nathan James 123
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chile did really well after the aylwin administration unfucked it
the idea of distributism really intrigues me
but it sort of seems like something thats impossible to achieve
the problem is that centralized control over resources is more or less a reality for any society that wants to stay competitive
industrial strength translates quite heavily to military strength
especially when you look at china as one of those competitors on the global stage
china is set to overtake the us in industrial capacity pretty soon i think
Some seem to think a collapse is inevitable
but... i dont know.. i sort of doubt that.. The chinese government can do whatever they need to prevent that from happening
i think what is so impressive about china, is that mathematically speaking... if even just half of their population stormed the government buildings.. there wouldnt be enough bullets to stop all the people. Really a flip could happen in less then a week if the people just banded together in massive groups... Sorry but 500 million people storming government buildings and shiz... theres no way they could stop it... but the chinese people will never do that.
The level of suppression that their government has achieved is scary but also impressive.
Why would they storm government buildings though?
QOL is increasing in China
A middle class is forming and expanding
i dunno the china collapse theories i've seen are just rooted in the idea that state planning is going to be their downfall or some such nonsense
i wouldnt trust the numbers coming out of china
on anything
The China collapsing theories are pushed by idiots looking at China from a Western perspective @Death in June
"They don't have freedom!!!!"
>So?
What they're getting now is more than any basically in their history
LOL
the chinese seem to have a very positive view of the chinese government from what i can see
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They have to
yea the thing is they all buy into the whole idea of progressing the chinese people as a whole
the chinese are like ants
They litteraly cannot say they dislike the government
Or they will get in trouble
Oh well
yea true <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898> of course you wont see a chinese person in china.. saying they dislike their gov
they'll get put into a work camp
News in China: Everything is great in China 🙂
Or outside, they have your family even if you somehow get out (like all those Chinese actors who are anti Hong Kong)
And for most of history china was as free as or more free than the west. Probably until the enlightenment period in fact
what do you mean by free
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I mean, pre modern freedom is always pretty limited, but ability to choose life paths is the most notable difference. Most of the nobility was recruited for most dynasties. Furthermore physical mobility was far more tolerated, as in walking/riding to a different area, which was illegal for many in feudal Europe/Russia.
Which was illegal because you were going into a different country, sure.
Movement was fine because of the massive scale of China