Message from @Borzo
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In northern Asia
>implying the yanks and Brits didn't do the exact same thing in Europe
Yanks dropped the bombs on Japan just so that the soviets couldn't liberate the northern island
For the yanks it wasn’t as much of a land grab because they didn’t annex territory themselves
Hm American control of Japan after the War seemed pretty annexed
The Soviets not only build up puppet states, but took land for themselves
Japan was a puppet state
*Thats exactly what the west did*
No America didn’t take land for itself
They got no additional territory out of it
Stalin's control of Eastern Europe was only supposed to be limited to get rid of the fascism there, but after his death, Khrushchev exploited it
Sending in tanks to crush communist revolutions in czechiaslovakia and Hungary
Revisionism
Stalin was all for continuing the control
He obviously wouldn’t want to give up his newly won territory would he?
Stalin controlled the land after 1948 as much as the Americans and Brits controlled France
As well as Italy
France left NATO so I would hardly call them a puppet
The amount of poor partisans who lost their lives to CIA...
France was basically forced into NATO
But they left, so how do you explain that?
France is still in NATO, what are you talking about
France left NATO, during the Cold War, and then rejoined after it ended
Because of the Gaullists and socialist party?
Any and all uprisings that occurred even outside of NATO, in Western Europe were crushed by it
Take COINTELPRO for example
The French government may have been away from NATO, but its implications and debt to it were immense
But by leaving NATO they showed their own independence
They weren’t a puppet of USA anymore
Were they really independent though
Unlike Poland
Austria isn't in NATO, yet it's still a puppet
Who was its owner then?
Mostly America
Obviously not the Soviets, because they would have been FORCED to join the Warsaw Pact
Warsaw governments agreed to join Warsaw Pact
“Agreed”
And Warsaw Pact was a reaction to the western aggressiveness
In NATO
Stalin actually applied to join NATO, but when rejected, it was clear it was an act of aggression towards the Soviet Union