Message from @LockJack
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Stalin was all for continuing the control
He obviously wouldn’t want to give up his newly won territory would he?
Stalin controlled the land after 1948 as much as the Americans and Brits controlled France
As well as Italy
France left NATO so I would hardly call them a puppet
The amount of poor partisans who lost their lives to CIA...
France was basically forced into NATO
"Join or die"
But they left, so how do you explain that?
France is still in NATO, what are you talking about
France left NATO, during the Cold War, and then rejoined after it ended
Because of the Gaullists and socialist party?
Any and all uprisings that occurred even outside of NATO, in Western Europe were crushed by it
Take COINTELPRO for example
The French government may have been away from NATO, but its implications and debt to it were immense
But by leaving NATO they showed their own independence
They weren’t a puppet of USA anymore
Were they really independent though
Unlike Poland
Austria isn't in NATO, yet it's still a puppet
Mostly America
Obviously not the Soviets, because they would have been FORCED to join the Warsaw Pact
Warsaw governments agreed to join Warsaw Pact
“Agreed”
And Warsaw Pact was a reaction to the western aggressiveness
In NATO
Stalin actually applied to join NATO, but when rejected, it was clear it was an act of aggression towards the Soviet Union
Poland was a puppet state. Are you denying that?
If The Soviet Union joined NATO, then that would defeat the whole purpose wouldn’t it?
Poland has almost always been a puppet state ever since its collapse of the empire
Occupied by mostly Germany and Russia
Then got a bit of independence, with an extremely reactionary government in WW2
But you can’t say that they agreed to anything it they were coerced.
*if
The government agreed to it
Italy however, was forced into NATO
It was a puppet government installed by Stalin, of course they were going to agree with it!
Otherwise tanks would be rolled into Warsaw
And then Stalin would get the response he wanted
Stalin never sent tanks into Warsaw apart from getting the nazis out of it