Message from @Geoffrey

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2019-04-22 00:21:14 UTC  

well I spent like 10+ hours reading the fucking anarchist faq so I'm guessing yes.

2019-04-22 00:21:15 UTC  

CNT-FAI

2019-04-22 00:21:44 UTC  

When it was a free territory during the Spanish civil war it was anarchist

2019-04-22 00:21:52 UTC  

but again, WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THE LABELS?
why don't you just argue for the system?

2019-04-22 00:21:55 UTC  

fuck

2019-04-22 00:21:55 UTC  

You make yourself sound like an idiot for unironically using the ‘but that was real socialism’ argument

2019-04-22 00:22:06 UTC  

You asked what it was lmao

2019-04-22 00:22:13 UTC  

Because they were different

2019-04-22 00:22:14 UTC  

Lol

2019-04-22 00:22:27 UTC  

You literally asked me what Catalonia was since it wasn’t socialist

2019-04-22 00:22:31 UTC  

Are you okay buddy?

2019-04-22 00:22:31 UTC  

They had distinct features

2019-04-22 00:22:55 UTC  

when the fuck did I use the ‘but that was real socialism’?
these whole fucking thing has been me trying to figure out what you think is socialism.

2019-04-22 00:22:58 UTC  

Someone’s getting angry

2019-04-22 00:23:14 UTC  

No you literally used that argument

2019-04-22 00:23:34 UTC  

‘Why do you care about labels’ what are labels for?

2019-04-22 00:23:39 UTC  

@Geoffrey Socialism is where the state owns means of production and a central workers council

2019-04-22 00:23:42 UTC  

Like cmon man

2019-04-22 00:23:46 UTC  

It isn’t that difficult

2019-04-22 00:24:17 UTC  

Anarchist is complete opposite

2019-04-22 00:24:18 UTC  

Ok so let's try to take things from the top here.
USSR is not socialism. correct?

2019-04-22 00:24:28 UTC  

No

2019-04-22 00:24:30 UTC  

The idea was

2019-04-22 00:24:34 UTC  

^

2019-04-22 00:24:43 UTC  

Ussr was ass lmao

2019-04-22 00:24:43 UTC  

Execution especially under Stalin, fuck no

2019-04-22 00:24:56 UTC  

They tried to invade finland and failed

2019-04-22 00:24:59 UTC  

Pussy bitches

2019-04-22 00:25:05 UTC  

That was justified

2019-04-22 00:25:09 UTC  

USSR was very much state capitalism like China is today

2019-04-22 00:25:09 UTC  

To be fair

2019-04-22 00:25:14 UTC  

Ok so that I understood.
Now, yugoslavia started as socialism, but degenerated into authoritarianism. Correct?

2019-04-22 00:25:27 UTC  

During Tito it was socialist

2019-04-22 00:25:28 UTC  

No

2019-04-22 00:25:30 UTC  

Albania

2019-04-22 00:25:43 UTC  

Yugoslavia was market socialism

2019-04-22 00:26:05 UTC  

Yes but it was worker’s ownership of the means of production was it not

2019-04-22 00:26:20 UTC  

Where does that conflict with the market

2019-04-22 00:26:27 UTC  

It was but it was market because he allowed freedom of trade and some capitalist elements

2019-04-22 00:26:31 UTC  

Not as bad as China

2019-04-22 00:26:35 UTC  

But some