Message from @AEling

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2019-05-31 14:04:16 UTC  

>global warming is destroying the planet
"we have good technology to adapt to the changing environmet anyway😏 "

2019-05-31 14:14:26 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/584021877396078604/The_Maunder_minimum_in_a_400-year_history_of_sunspot_numbers.png

2019-05-31 14:28:16 UTC  

“Communism cannot work because the natural fixed human nature is usually more competitive rather than cooperative.”

2019-05-31 14:28:24 UTC  

Agree or disagree?

2019-05-31 14:38:09 UTC  

Neither, it’s a bit of a skewed question

2019-05-31 14:40:26 UTC  

ancap wont work because you have ppl that are naturally followers and submissive

2019-05-31 14:40:28 UTC  

Or, not neither, but both
I’ve always held a belief tied to Dunbar’s number (essentially, the number of relationships an individual can actively maintain before “friends” becomes “acquaintances”, typically around 100-200), that communism can work in groups smaller than that number, but as populations rise to meet or exceed that number, the system begins to fall apart as competition takes precedent over cooperation in a crowd

2019-05-31 14:41:25 UTC  

That’s why a hippie commune of 60-80 people may operate like a dream, but a massive state with tens of millions cannot maintain the system without destroying the freedoms of those caught within it

2019-05-31 14:41:52 UTC  

but I’m not an economist, so I might be wrong

2019-05-31 14:45:16 UTC  

So, TL;DR, the natural human nature is not fixed either way, it adapts to the environment, and the environment determines why communism will or will not work at different scales, but usually the more people that you force to cooperate, the more likely it is that some will find reasons not to cooperate, and the order falls apart

2019-05-31 15:01:21 UTC  

Marin luter king jr

2019-05-31 15:01:27 UTC  

He had a dream

2019-05-31 15:01:49 UTC  

people being naturally competitive has nothing to do with communism not working

2019-05-31 15:02:05 UTC  

Ewe who even likes communism

2019-05-31 15:02:06 UTC  

unless you're a hardcore ideological communist

2019-05-31 15:03:02 UTC  

social bonds give evolutionary advantage

2019-05-31 15:03:30 UTC  

if we were only competitive we wouldn't've survived

2019-05-31 15:12:01 UTC  

we’re both competitive AND cooperative

2019-05-31 15:12:04 UTC  

we’re tribal

2019-05-31 15:12:23 UTC  

we form groups within which we will cooperate freely, but there’s a limit to the size of those groups

2019-05-31 15:13:21 UTC  

forcing 293,000,000+ people to be in one wholly cooperative, non-competitive group can only lead to disaster

2019-05-31 15:21:38 UTC  

^

2019-05-31 15:22:26 UTC  

i concur

2019-05-31 15:22:38 UTC  

forcing big masses of people together leads to disaster

2019-05-31 15:22:51 UTC  

khm khm today's system

2019-05-31 15:23:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/584039314002804736/unknown.png

2019-05-31 15:28:32 UTC  

yeah thats gay

2019-05-31 15:28:41 UTC  

No u

2019-05-31 15:29:09 UTC  

why did we ever move out of tribal life

2019-05-31 15:29:17 UTC  

or like to big societies

2019-05-31 15:29:21 UTC  

Because we are smart

2019-05-31 15:29:36 UTC  

yet we ruined it for ourselves

2019-05-31 15:33:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/584041772880101376/peasant.jpg

2019-05-31 15:57:27 UTC  

@ApplicationBot you are right, I should have linked it's source rather than that one

2019-05-31 15:57:51 UTC  

But the article it was based on showed that we can remove carbon gas from the atmosphere at 100$ a tonne

2019-05-31 15:58:04 UTC  

So there's not any "tipping point"

2019-05-31 15:58:16 UTC  

There's not any "climate crisis"

2019-05-31 15:58:31 UTC  

It's just annoying to see alarmism, like the article says

2019-05-31 15:59:00 UTC  

I am all for preserving the Earth's natural beauty. That's what they should be focusing on. Not hecking causing a panic with lies

2019-05-31 15:59:07 UTC  

the article is just shitting on democrats

2019-05-31 15:59:22 UTC  

and how capitalism and progress is good