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2019-07-26 00:58:25 UTC  

TBH on their situation, unsure. Perhaps it was due to their isolation. Perhaps it was due to Juche's stated goal of self reliance that makes them hostile to capitalism in general. Perhaps it can be even a social thing due to the causalities sustained in the Korean war. It would require some historical psychoanalysis.

2019-07-26 00:59:15 UTC  

I think its been firmly cemented in their culture at this point from all their years. They are known as the troll like communist nation with the nukes, and a lot of Koreans are happy on that.

2019-07-26 00:59:44 UTC  

They absolutely think capitalist nations and the like are as bad as the western nations think Korea is.

2019-07-26 00:59:55 UTC  

Some of that gets cemented with a few defectors hold on.

2019-07-26 01:00:30 UTC  

doesn't north korea have a market economy

2019-07-26 01:00:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/604115882259513374/8df329835d8b15ab2c299858b4e5f5d555a538de.png

2019-07-26 01:00:50 UTC  

not on a large scale, but they did have some market reforms a few years back

2019-07-26 01:01:21 UTC  

depends a lot of it was talked about in our old lefty pol thread here https://archive.fo/pRkxK

2019-07-26 01:01:47 UTC  

There was some reforms under Un but it remains mostly planned economy still and socialist.

2019-07-26 01:02:06 UTC  

Though also since their position in the world also keeps them within that way.

2019-07-26 01:02:34 UTC  

Their culture is very much tied to socialism. Like for example their don't hate the American people just the goverment.

2019-07-26 01:02:49 UTC  

And feel Americans are living under a horrible capitalist system ~~which i would say is true~~

2019-07-26 01:03:25 UTC  

on more from their lulz is that a lot of inof is "Saddam has WMDs tier"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/604116535023501312/6d90ad415434c3cfb654144ec0a92355a5f3955d.png

2019-07-26 01:03:43 UTC  

where people supposedly executed magically come back to life.

2019-07-26 01:04:11 UTC  

Or the atrocity propaganda ranges on absured

2019-07-26 01:04:32 UTC  

such as saying that they execute people with Piranha filled tanks.

2019-07-26 01:04:58 UTC  

yeah i've seen that pic before lol

2019-07-26 01:05:19 UTC  

Piranha's don't actually eat people, that myth was started since IIRC some tribes person or someone wanted to show off to another and didn't feed them for several days making them ravenous more then usual

2019-07-26 01:06:02 UTC  

Un's actually been more "liberal" you could say. Trying to tone down the cult of personality.

2019-07-26 01:06:45 UTC  

The cult mostly exists on North Korean's free will. A lot of them were used to monarchs (Korean, Qing, Japanese) and thus were drawn to a "Strongman" similar to like Castro's, though the Kims have tried to tone them down.

2019-07-26 01:06:52 UTC  

One reason it exists is due to the Korean war.

2019-07-26 01:07:03 UTC  

what is kim trying to accomplish with trump anyways

2019-07-26 01:07:35 UTC  

Korea wants peace

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1we5OEdteZFfAh11v0s_RVh3LWAkVICGrFnvksVynGxw/edit#

Some sources in that doc and a LOT of them. There is a peace section in there.

2019-07-26 01:07:48 UTC  

But Korea would just like the U.S to fuck off personally.

2019-07-26 01:08:16 UTC  

There is a quote that is often mocked but it rings true "The days are over when our enemies could blackmail us with nuclear weapons." - Kim Jong Un

2019-07-26 01:08:39 UTC  

He knows that this nuke thing and their reputation is the only thing preventing out right annexation.

2019-07-26 01:08:52 UTC  

I think Un really has best intentions and is trying to reason with the U.S

2019-07-26 01:09:02 UTC  

to see if they can work something out to leave them alone.

2019-07-26 01:09:16 UTC  

well, wouldn't that be better achieved by simply pursuing reunification with the south? granted, the two vastly different ideologies is another can of worms on its own

2019-07-26 01:09:16 UTC  

Trump certainly is egotistical and dumb enough he could fall for something like that.

2019-07-26 01:09:35 UTC  

Yes that is the issue that is the elephant in the room.

2019-07-26 01:09:36 UTC  

hasnt trump also backpedaled on talks with kim before

2019-07-26 01:09:50 UTC  

The South is INCREDIBLY capitalistic.

2019-07-26 01:10:13 UTC  

On tinfoil hat levels some gone as far as to say its a USA corporate puppet, where rich and elites use it to study trends and test them

2019-07-26 01:10:19 UTC  

before moving onto other areas.

2019-07-26 01:10:43 UTC  

The North does want unification but it would be unlikely they would unite with a capitalist government.

2019-07-26 01:11:29 UTC  

south is basically a dystopia at this point

2019-07-26 01:11:48 UTC  

moreso than the media's portrayal of the north

2019-07-26 01:13:07 UTC  

need to get my link on South Korean salt mines.

2019-07-26 01:13:14 UTC  

Those hardly get talked about.