why?

Juche and North Korea remains incredibly tenacious. Even to this day. Like with Cuba, Vietnam, China, etc. You get deterioration and movement away from their more socialist roots, like China being praised by ancaps and capitalists in some cases for accepting their sweat shops and being good for western businesses, and Vietnam being somewhat similar and helping USA with their navy. Or with how things seem to be in Cuba which is uncertain at the moment. North Korea has been through several leaders, been through a war with the U.S, and technically is still at war with them, and lived.

IIRC they currently are even older then the USSR.

And in that time there has not really been a change. They still try their best with a communist economy, a lot of issues due to their land (north korea is very mountainous and does not have a lot of good farmland) and due to sanctions forcing them to be self reliant, which is what Juche was supposed to be about.

To just their entire troll factor, that the western media spergs about them constantly and they become a strawman for almost every argument and yet they stand.

Some of its to lol at the South Koreans like how one 15 year old girl got arrested for having a yaoi manga since it was "obscene" which one would think with all the propaganda would be something claimed against North Korea.

so how does juche avoid deviations like in vietnam or china

TBH on their situation, unsure. Perhaps it was due to their isolation. Perhaps it was due to Juche's stated goal of self reliance that makes them hostile to capitalism in general. Perhaps it can be even a social thing due to the causalities sustained in the Korean war. It would require some historical psychoanalysis.

I think its been firmly cemented in their culture at this point from all their years. They are known as the troll like communist nation with the nukes, and a lot of Koreans are happy on that.

They absolutely think capitalist nations and the like are as bad as the western nations think Korea is.

Some of that gets cemented with a few defectors hold on.

doesn't north korea have a market economy

not on a large scale, but they did have some market reforms a few years back

depends a lot of it was talked about in our old lefty pol thread here https://archive.fo/pRkxK

There was some reforms under Un but it remains mostly planned economy still and socialist.

Though also since their position in the world also keeps them within that way.

Their culture is very much tied to socialism. Like for example their don't hate the American people just the goverment.

And feel Americans are living under a horrible capitalist system ~~which i would say is true~~

on more from their lulz is that a lot of inof is "Saddam has WMDs tier"

where people supposedly executed magically come back to life.

Or the atrocity propaganda ranges on absured

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/north-korean-general-executed-thrown-piranha-filled-fish-tank-9883652/

such as saying that they execute people with Piranha filled tanks.

yeah i've seen that pic before lol

Piranha's don't actually eat people, that myth was started since IIRC some tribes person or someone wanted to show off to another and didn't feed them for several days making them ravenous more then usual

Un's actually been more "liberal" you could say. Trying to tone down the cult of personality.

The cult mostly exists on North Korean's free will. A lot of them were used to monarchs (Korean, Qing, Japanese) and thus were drawn to a "Strongman" similar to like Castro's, though the Kims have tried to tone them down.

One reason it exists is due to the Korean war.

what is kim trying to accomplish with trump anyways

Korea wants peace

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1we5OEdteZFfAh11v0s_RVh3LWAkVICGrFnvksVynGxw/edit#

Some sources in that doc and a LOT of them. There is a peace section in there.

But Korea would just like the U.S to fuck off personally.

There is a quote that is often mocked but it rings true "The days are over when our enemies could blackmail us with nuclear weapons." - Kim Jong Un

He knows that this nuke thing and their reputation is the only thing preventing out right annexation.

I think Un really has best intentions and is trying to reason with the U.S

to see if they can work something out to leave them alone.

well, wouldn't that be better achieved by simply pursuing reunification with the south? granted, the two vastly different ideologies is another can of worms on its own

Trump certainly is egotistical and dumb enough he could fall for something like that.

Yes that is the issue that is the elephant in the room.

hasnt trump also backpedaled on talks with kim before

The South is INCREDIBLY capitalistic.