Message from @checkers
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@Firefly , I don’t see any SJW shit in the transhumanist groups I’m in.
The worst SJW are even against hearing aids because that’s "imposing ableist views".
@Tenta I've seen many about 10 years ago. Most of them been started by objective idealists. I've been looking for a non-idealist one but could not find.
I’m really cynical when it comes to politics.
@Firefly I read that Stalin rejected too much automation in the factories because it was perceived that it would make workers weak and complacent. I admire this focus on uplifting the human condition and not simply making life easier for progress sake.
Why do you think in terms of groups/thought systems being an objective instead of something real, practical and immediate?
If that makes sense
@Deleted User automation was one of the primary goals of Stalin's strategy.
What is it exactly about (for example) the transhumanism that you like and how can you do something with that? Or is just talking and dreaming to pass the time the objective?
@checkers You can develop AI. Many companies start working on it right now.
Are you working on something like that right now?
Or do you want to talk about how to find practical uses for it?
Let's assume you have the skills to make a decent ai and you have the time, what would you make?
@Firefly And yet it did not remove the concept of struggle from life. Maintaining tension towards every higher goals is an important aspect of the collective motivation, is it not?
So you want to join a "transhumanist group" to find a low skill job in an AI company?
@Deleted User Tension is one of the ways to control things. There are many various ways.
Ok. I like data and bots myself, I have a box sucking down millions of users from twitter and other social sites
16 mill on twitter right now
@Firefly My concern is that transhumanism is a promise of not having to struggle. It's allure is hedonistic and hence corrosive to improving the quality of humanity. Full automation fits thie category and is not insurrance and future collapse, infact represents a false sense of security if taken too far or too blindly.
Also when people make changes to their variosu bio fields or move their phone, I record that. Have a few ideas on how to use it
@Deleted User , there won’t be less work. The work will be shifted to other fields. Just like nowadays only few people in the Western world work on farms when it had been pretty much everyone a few centuries back.
Thee will always be work, and the majority of humans wants to work, wants to feel useful to society.
@Deleted User I'm more pro-objective than pro-subjective. Subjectivity of the humanity has to develop into objectivity. At some point humanity will no longer exist.
I disagree. We'll grant at least one planet to the tribal races where they'll commune with jenkem until the heat death of the universe
Those are good responses. Thanks. I guess I am projecting my own experience as a domesticated human not coerced into labour, I hence only engage in leisure which is not objectively goal orientated.
>only engage in leisure
Is that why you're for socialism? Bit selfish isn't it
rofl3x@transhumanism
transhumansts come in two types, the liars, and the losers.
the liars want you to believe that any of this shit is possible or rational and know that it is not
the losers can't be bothered to do their due dilligence
@checkers Honestly, part of the appeal is the idea of a dictatorship of the proletariat, a coercive collective function of discipline to give some measurable objective purpose in life
LMFAO
>dictatorship of the proletariat
my fucking sides
the proletariat is not equipped to hold such power else they would not be mere proles
@Deleted User Our ideas come from the objective necessity in material basis. Without any purpose.
My objective is to smash ideologies and establishment, the world would be much improved if we just shot everyone with a blue checkmark at least once every third generation