@Deleted User what is a death tall in gulags?

I don't really care.

Approximate

I don't know, a few million. Did I pass?

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@Deleted User nope

Our estimates of 600k both criminal and not.

OK. You have to realise I am desensitised to moral arguments.

It is always contextual.

Knowledge is important

You're right. How many jews did Hitler gas?

American children books say 40 million

@Deleted User none. He tryed to get rid of them by asking them to leave.

I'm impressed.

I'm not

This is very new to my experience. OK, 600,000 deaths in gulag.

I think we have a massive antiauthoritarian propaganda against both left and right

What are the ways to fight it?

When do we send libertarian filth to camps?

You know how to cut right to it, don't you?

<:caring:312066184948350976> we have to do something about it.

I'm thinking...

First you have to identity what you are fighting against. The responce depends on the antithesis of it.

People who struggle are shaped by what they are fighting against.

This is why it is so easy to divide the Left and Right, and even divides within each. Groups are shooting at different goals in terms of who they think they are fighting against. If there is no agreement on the cause, it is impossible to fight against.

Whether or not there is a final 'boogeyman' is not important. Consensus is important.

Normal people like individual liberty and they're only going to warm up to Protectionism.

>implying normies possess individual agency

Do you, define it

People like to have land and easily get things they want done

Authoritarianism doesn't happen in America, even now the corporate foreign lobbied government is despised

Because it oversteps on everyone

@Deleted User and what we have to fight against?

People do not break the mold because it is too costly. This social compliance is evidence of passivism. Rational behaviour from an atomised perspective, but this is not reality. Individualism is ironically the path to exploitation

@Firefly You tell me. The enemy depends on your ideology. Is there a way to get consensus between different political ideology? I don't know. But it is a line in the sand. And getting bearings in the 'competition of ideas' is an important starting point.

@Deleted User I'm asking you. I may have a completely different vision from you.

Personally I have little ambition to 'fix' anything. I was entertaining your question on how to bring the libertarians into camps. Your question implied there was common ground between left and right authoritarianism. Thinking about this I was hesitant to say anything specific about activism in the world, because in the current climate it is easy to go from 0 to life imprisonment by mere suggestion.

I guess I do not know enough about your political stance to answer in more detail.

@Firefly What is your stance on 'Socialism in One Nation'?

Stalin thought we can establish a country that will later unite the world.

I agree. We can do it, yes. @Deleted User