I guess what I am really getting is a pretty radical position. You have to disrupt people's comfort zones and force them into take an a side on an absolute question.
Whatever the policy, is has to have real consequences. The individual will not take notice until he is personally effected.

Lets disrupt

In my opinion, politics and government has lost respect. Politics has lost its sense of urgency and consequence.

Question: is your vision of the proletariat an 'us vs them' idea?

The way to break into the Right wing mentality is to present a strong character that commands respect.

What is the character of the proletariat?

What I like about 'Socialism in One Nation' is that it counts its pieces. It makes clear what is friend and foe.

That dichotomy is how you make people choose a side.

Alligence to the Party is the way to solve dichtomy

You have to show clearly what the consequences will be if people choose the wrong side and make it credible enough for them to address it. Whether the threat is real or imagined doesn't matter. It brings the struggle into people's consciousness.

That just technicalities. We should use every way possible.

Sure. I am saying you have to force the issue, or it will get no where. At this point Left Authoritarianism seems pretty Fascist to me! <:troll:312064734113431553>

I'm not against of the use of force against any fascist without an alligence.

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In my view, Fascism is built around the Volksgeist, the 'spirit of the people'. It is interchangable whatever it is. Where Marxism fills that is not for me to judge! It is all the same.

What a weird place I find myself.

The more I think about it, the weirder it gets. Marxism resolves the eternal struggle between ingroup and outgroup by making the ingroup everyone. That is the same as the final victory. Very admirable.

The Right often debates and counters with the idea that the human hardware can not handle such objective notions. Not yet. The overcoming of man's shortcomings is implicit in a Communist vision of the future. This is a very Nietzsche idea.

'The New Soviet Man' is an interesting formation of this idea.

Overcoming is important, yes? Clone factories would advance faster than computers. <:p_:312057780317978625>

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i'm soo glad i woke up and got the fuck out of antifa. ijs

Antifa is fucking retarded you better stay tf outta that shit

they'd hospitalise me if they knew where I'm at now

i didnt even know reverse lobotomies were possible. Life is good

don't hate, i'm just tryna bait. hail victory

Whats wrong with antifa?

Bunch of ancoms who act more fascist than "communist"

Quite a few German Antifa belong to the anti-German movement which means they long for the destruction of Germany and support both the USA and Israel.

Antifa means fighting against those you deem fascist. It doesn’t have much to do with a political ideology.

The American Antifa are just a bunch of amcoms, or some sort of anarchists

Also they're cucks

There's even video of some beating on innocent people, and then there's video of the "Anti-Antifa", if you will, fighting the Antifa

It's funny shit cuz most of them are poons

American kids are funny, I've met them a lot. They lack authority, discipline and ability to organize. But I think we can change it by organizing them.

@Tenta German antifa supporting imperialism?

@BofaFett I'm sure they are less fascist than our friend @Deleted User

@Firefly , the ones that are anti-Germans do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antideutsche

@Tenta why would they be against Germany?