Message from @dontchewglass

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2017-05-14 19:22:35 UTC  

No shit

2017-05-14 19:25:11 UTC  

Authority first of all is a theoretical authority

2017-05-14 19:25:18 UTC  

How does anyone expect to persuade anyone on our ideas if we act like snobs? It's counterintuitive

2017-05-14 19:26:47 UTC  

@Firefly define theoritial authority?

2017-05-14 19:29:53 UTC  

I was just added, what is this chat?

2017-05-14 19:30:45 UTC  

@danman1950 When a group of theoreticians work hard on raising quality of their theory and crush all the opponents in the theoretical field gaining more trust and leading the less theoretically savvy

2017-05-14 19:31:05 UTC  

Like Lenin did ^__^

2017-05-14 19:31:15 UTC  

you mean an idealogical vanguard?

2017-05-14 19:31:49 UTC  

"Make Russia Great this one time" Vladimir Lenin.

2017-05-14 19:31:50 UTC  

@dontchewglass at first only ideological, but also an organizational.

2017-05-14 19:32:14 UTC  

*krondstadt intensifies*

2017-05-14 19:36:19 UTC  

@Firefly that's not really authoritarian though, it's not blatantly outsing ideas, it's just a replacement. Like how Einsteins theory of relativity didn't replace concepts on relatitivity until it was tested to be proven true.

2017-05-14 19:39:17 UTC  

@danman1950 it is based on centralism and discipline.

2017-05-14 19:39:55 UTC  

are we discussing the vanguard party's role in society? (bit confused reading this)

2017-05-14 19:40:41 UTC  

@Deleted User Кто его знает.

2017-05-14 19:41:50 UTC  

@Firefly Ах, я se.

2017-05-14 19:42:27 UTC  

вижу***

2017-05-14 19:42:46 UTC  

(hopefully that's right)

2017-05-14 19:42:49 UTC  

@Firefly i define authority by power structures, i think it's more practitical. to each his own.

2017-05-14 19:43:25 UTC  

@danman1950 power structure is another step after idea structure

2017-05-14 19:43:30 UTC  

same

2017-05-14 19:44:26 UTC  

of course there must be an influential group of dedicated revolutionaries, but authority would be in power structures, hierarchy and the material effects thereof

2017-05-14 19:44:35 UTC  

2situationist4me

2017-05-14 19:44:45 UTC  

what i said?

2017-05-14 19:44:58 UTC  

Debord > u

2017-05-14 19:45:05 UTC  

sorry, i ment @Firefly

2017-05-14 19:45:44 UTC  

i actually included Debord in young adult dystopian novel i'm writing

2017-05-14 19:45:51 UTC  

that's rad

2017-05-14 19:45:52 UTC  

yeah tab completions are total mess in discord

2017-05-14 19:46:02 UTC  

fails 99/100 times

2017-05-14 19:46:52 UTC  

@dontchewglass yeah, i finished the novel awhile ago, now I'm going to edit soon. The main character reads excerpts from the spectacle every once in awhile

2017-05-14 19:47:07 UTC  

that's fuckin awesome man

2017-05-14 19:47:21 UTC  

@dontchewglass i;m trying to brainwash simple minded high school students into complacency of communism XD

2017-05-14 19:47:39 UTC  

I'm working on ideas for two alternate histories and one fantasy novel

2017-05-14 19:48:04 UTC  

careful, if you pile on too many project, you'll never get around to finishing any of them

2017-05-14 19:48:48 UTC  

One is a WW1 alternate history where the war drags on until 1921, causing communist revolutions and an early cold war as opposed to the setup to ww2 in our timeline

2017-05-14 19:51:02 UTC  

And it switches between multiple perspectives including an Irish revolutionary fighting in a british convict battalion who commits mutiny and helps a Catalonian revolution, a german draftee who joins the Spartacists out of a desire for peace, a Spanish 19 year old fighting for the monarchy, and a black American medic from Louisiana

2017-05-14 19:52:55 UTC  

that sounds like it would be difficult to write, but it's definitly worth to write about!

2017-05-14 19:53:11 UTC  

but basically, the war ends due to a successful Luxemburgist revolution, France becomes an authoritarian anti-communist state de facto controlled by the military clique, a east/west split Spain, a proxy war between leftists and fascists in Italy, and an absolute shitstorm in the former Ottoman empire

2017-05-14 19:54:26 UTC  

So the leftist side of this new cold war includes the USSR, Germany, Ireland (post war of independence), East Spain, Italian rebel enclaves and possibly the new Yugoslavia?

2017-05-14 19:55:03 UTC  

sounds like you built a pretty lively world