Message from @dontchewglass

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2017-05-14 19:31:15 UTC  

you mean an idealogical vanguard?

2017-05-14 19:31:49 UTC  

"Make Russia Great this one time" Vladimir Lenin.

2017-05-14 19:31:50 UTC  

@dontchewglass at first only ideological, but also an organizational.

2017-05-14 19:32:14 UTC  

*krondstadt intensifies*

2017-05-14 19:36:19 UTC  

@Firefly that's not really authoritarian though, it's not blatantly outsing ideas, it's just a replacement. Like how Einsteins theory of relativity didn't replace concepts on relatitivity until it was tested to be proven true.

2017-05-14 19:39:17 UTC  

@danman1950 it is based on centralism and discipline.

2017-05-14 19:39:55 UTC  

are we discussing the vanguard party's role in society? (bit confused reading this)

2017-05-14 19:40:41 UTC  

@Deleted User Кто его знает.

2017-05-14 19:41:50 UTC  

@Firefly Ах, я se.

2017-05-14 19:42:27 UTC  

вижу***

2017-05-14 19:42:46 UTC  

(hopefully that's right)

2017-05-14 19:42:49 UTC  

@Firefly i define authority by power structures, i think it's more practitical. to each his own.

2017-05-14 19:43:25 UTC  

@danman1950 power structure is another step after idea structure

2017-05-14 19:43:30 UTC  

same

2017-05-14 19:44:26 UTC  

of course there must be an influential group of dedicated revolutionaries, but authority would be in power structures, hierarchy and the material effects thereof

2017-05-14 19:44:35 UTC  

2situationist4me

2017-05-14 19:44:45 UTC  

what i said?

2017-05-14 19:44:58 UTC  

Debord > u

2017-05-14 19:45:05 UTC  

sorry, i ment @Firefly

2017-05-14 19:45:44 UTC  

i actually included Debord in young adult dystopian novel i'm writing

2017-05-14 19:45:51 UTC  

that's rad

2017-05-14 19:45:52 UTC  

yeah tab completions are total mess in discord

2017-05-14 19:46:02 UTC  

fails 99/100 times

2017-05-14 19:46:52 UTC  

@dontchewglass yeah, i finished the novel awhile ago, now I'm going to edit soon. The main character reads excerpts from the spectacle every once in awhile

2017-05-14 19:47:07 UTC  

that's fuckin awesome man

2017-05-14 19:47:21 UTC  

@dontchewglass i;m trying to brainwash simple minded high school students into complacency of communism XD

2017-05-14 19:47:39 UTC  

I'm working on ideas for two alternate histories and one fantasy novel

2017-05-14 19:48:04 UTC  

careful, if you pile on too many project, you'll never get around to finishing any of them

2017-05-14 19:48:48 UTC  

One is a WW1 alternate history where the war drags on until 1921, causing communist revolutions and an early cold war as opposed to the setup to ww2 in our timeline

2017-05-14 19:51:02 UTC  

And it switches between multiple perspectives including an Irish revolutionary fighting in a british convict battalion who commits mutiny and helps a Catalonian revolution, a german draftee who joins the Spartacists out of a desire for peace, a Spanish 19 year old fighting for the monarchy, and a black American medic from Louisiana

2017-05-14 19:52:55 UTC  

that sounds like it would be difficult to write, but it's definitly worth to write about!

2017-05-14 19:53:11 UTC  

but basically, the war ends due to a successful Luxemburgist revolution, France becomes an authoritarian anti-communist state de facto controlled by the military clique, a east/west split Spain, a proxy war between leftists and fascists in Italy, and an absolute shitstorm in the former Ottoman empire

2017-05-14 19:54:26 UTC  

So the leftist side of this new cold war includes the USSR, Germany, Ireland (post war of independence), East Spain, Italian rebel enclaves and possibly the new Yugoslavia?

2017-05-14 19:55:03 UTC  

sounds like you built a pretty lively world

2017-05-14 19:55:11 UTC  

i mean, full of death and destruction, but lively

2017-05-14 19:55:34 UTC  

the rightists are France, the UK (in response to revolutionary threat the king takes greater emergency authority), the US (although they're somewhat detached), fascist Italy, Turkey and Western Spain

2017-05-14 19:55:42 UTC  

ye I've been working on it a while now

2017-05-14 19:59:08 UTC  

my book is about 17 year old ricky he moves to the metropolis of Rodane City, Indiana (like a neo-Chicago) as his parents can't afford to live in the suburbs anymore. It's his first time going to a public school, as he's been homeschooled his whole life, and he gets bullied continously, he gets thrown into detention for doing nothing, and is bored out of his mind in class because it's tests upon tests upon tests. He eventually makes friends with some punks after they help him fight off his bullies, and show him life is much more exciting than just school.

2017-05-14 19:59:35 UTC  

I feel that Ricky, I feel that

2017-05-14 20:00:42 UTC  

Then the school starts to really crackdown on them, and they decide to runaway to a run down part of the city, and start a squat. It's difficult at first, but they become quite nortorious in the neighborhood. So much so, the police attempt to burn it down, and one of their friends die in the fire.

2017-05-14 20:00:58 UTC  

oh shit