Message from @dontchewglass

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2017-05-14 19:16:58 UTC  

The dark side will prevail

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/313394278338396160/Revolution.jpg

2017-05-14 19:17:01 UTC  

I don't think authoritarianism should be a main focus >.>

2017-05-14 19:17:24 UTC  

@Virgil dude it's fucking ridiculous on reddit. You can't even use the words "stupid" or "moronic" on any left subreddits or it's instaban

2017-05-14 19:17:24 UTC  

@Deleted User @danman1950 but this is what differentiate us from SJW

2017-05-14 19:17:52 UTC  

@Firefly we're only differentiated from SJWs by our level of authority?

2017-05-14 19:18:09 UTC  

@Deleted User Also by theory knowledge.

2017-05-14 19:18:29 UTC  

I was going to say we have a lot more theory, and a lot more logical conclusions lol

2017-05-14 19:18:31 UTC  

@Firefly no way man, SJWs are the most authoritarian. They talk like they're experts and parade their ideology as if it's the end all be all of all ideas. THAT is authoritarian in essence.

2017-05-14 19:19:09 UTC  

SJWs are smug liberals, they parade around their "ideology" like its undisputable fact

2017-05-14 19:19:20 UTC  

^

2017-05-14 19:19:30 UTC  

Its a noble cause I feel like but in the end people change their political stance before their language and the mods don't realize that

2017-05-14 19:19:40 UTC  

@danman1950 they are deeply anti-authoritarian but hysterical. They want to crush everything in anger. It has nothing to do with authority

2017-05-14 19:20:41 UTC  

@Virgil language doesn't really matter, the working class are going to speak the language they want to, and it's not because they hate other races or sexes or whatever, they are simply communicating. I never understood what was wrong with that.

2017-05-14 19:21:58 UTC  

@Firefly if they are waving power over how you speak and act, and want to punish you for it, that's exercising authority. Maybe SJWs believe they aren't authoritarian, but deeds speak louder than words.

2017-05-14 19:22:03 UTC  

I guess they don't realize controling speech doesn't end well

2017-05-14 19:22:22 UTC  

@Virgil yeah, just look at the u.s. election :p

2017-05-14 19:22:35 UTC  

No shit

2017-05-14 19:25:11 UTC  

Authority first of all is a theoretical authority

2017-05-14 19:25:18 UTC  

How does anyone expect to persuade anyone on our ideas if we act like snobs? It's counterintuitive

2017-05-14 19:26:47 UTC  

@Firefly define theoritial authority?

2017-05-14 19:29:53 UTC  

I was just added, what is this chat?

2017-05-14 19:30:45 UTC  

@danman1950 When a group of theoreticians work hard on raising quality of their theory and crush all the opponents in the theoretical field gaining more trust and leading the less theoretically savvy

2017-05-14 19:31:05 UTC  

Like Lenin did ^__^

2017-05-14 19:31:15 UTC  

you mean an idealogical vanguard?

2017-05-14 19:31:49 UTC  

"Make Russia Great this one time" Vladimir Lenin.

2017-05-14 19:31:50 UTC  

@dontchewglass at first only ideological, but also an organizational.

2017-05-14 19:32:14 UTC  

*krondstadt intensifies*

2017-05-14 19:36:19 UTC  

@Firefly that's not really authoritarian though, it's not blatantly outsing ideas, it's just a replacement. Like how Einsteins theory of relativity didn't replace concepts on relatitivity until it was tested to be proven true.

2017-05-14 19:39:17 UTC  

@danman1950 it is based on centralism and discipline.

2017-05-14 19:39:55 UTC  

are we discussing the vanguard party's role in society? (bit confused reading this)

2017-05-14 19:40:41 UTC  

@Deleted User Кто его знает.

2017-05-14 19:41:50 UTC  

@Firefly Ах, я se.

2017-05-14 19:42:27 UTC  

вижу***

2017-05-14 19:42:46 UTC  

(hopefully that's right)

2017-05-14 19:42:49 UTC  

@Firefly i define authority by power structures, i think it's more practitical. to each his own.

2017-05-14 19:43:25 UTC  

@danman1950 power structure is another step after idea structure

2017-05-14 19:43:30 UTC  

same

2017-05-14 19:44:26 UTC  

of course there must be an influential group of dedicated revolutionaries, but authority would be in power structures, hierarchy and the material effects thereof

2017-05-14 19:44:35 UTC  

2situationist4me

2017-05-14 19:44:45 UTC  

what i said?

2017-05-14 19:44:58 UTC  

Debord > u