Message from @dontchewglass

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2017-05-14 23:47:14 UTC  

'Self-expression' is a marketer's wet dream. Individualism perpetuates exploitation. And idpol is the commodification of self-expression. Easier to just not but into the self-expression meme. Do you think a person who genuinely struggles cares about his hopes and intentions are expressed to his audience?

2017-05-15 00:22:24 UTC  

what

2017-05-15 00:22:38 UTC  

individualism perpetuates exploitation?

2017-05-15 00:22:40 UTC  

dar?

2017-05-15 00:23:03 UTC  

wouldn't essentializing oneself perpetuate exploitation?

2017-05-15 00:23:47 UTC  

individualism and communism are complementary, not contradictory. Capitalism crushes individuality

2017-05-15 00:24:47 UTC  

@not_matt 'essentializing'?

2017-05-15 00:25:04 UTC  

Capitalism is individualism for the rich. Communism lets all within the collective societal body be individuals together and pursue becoming who they are

2017-05-15 00:25:10 UTC  

reducing yourself to an essence

2017-05-15 00:25:19 UTC  

the opposite of existentialism basically

2017-05-15 00:25:43 UTC  

essentializing oneself : "im a gamer"

2017-05-15 00:26:02 UTC  

rather than recognize your own being, your identity becomes what you consume

2017-05-15 00:26:05 UTC  

or what you do

2017-05-15 00:26:11 UTC  

@dontchewglass 'becoming who they are'. Who are they?

2017-05-15 00:26:27 UTC  

@not_matt What is 'your own being'?

2017-05-15 00:26:40 UTC  

each individual within society

2017-05-15 00:27:50 UTC  

@dontchewglass If people ought to think of themselves as individuals and pursue 'becoming who they are. What does that involve and why should it be pursued?

2017-05-15 00:28:32 UTC  

read sartre

2017-05-15 00:28:38 UTC  

and the good parts of heidigger

2017-05-15 00:28:40 UTC  

I think that people should pursue their individuality and cultivating who they are within the collective body

2017-05-15 00:28:42 UTC  

^^^

2017-05-15 00:28:45 UTC  

Sartre

2017-05-15 00:29:03 UTC  

@not_matt I have. Great, you're existentialists....

2017-05-15 00:29:16 UTC  

Cancer.

2017-05-15 00:29:21 UTC  

well then you shouldn't have those questions anymore : )

2017-05-15 00:29:24 UTC  

I think that the conflict between individualism and collectivism is a false dichotomy

2017-05-15 00:29:29 UTC  

dear lord

2017-05-15 00:29:44 UTC  

yikes lol

2017-05-15 00:30:13 UTC  

what do you find wrong with it?

2017-05-15 00:30:21 UTC  

existentialism i mean

2017-05-15 00:31:01 UTC  

Being a communist isn't the same as signing away your individual autonomy and having your own personal interests

2017-05-15 00:31:51 UTC  

(and just because i like existentialism doesn't mean other thinkers won't address the same issues and questions, schelling comes to mind as explaining why we are radically free and individuals but obviously w/o the same context to work with as jps)

2017-05-15 00:31:57 UTC  

@petit bourgeois Thanks! Always great to meet a fan

2017-05-15 00:32:20 UTC  

i actually met a fan in real life one time, one of the Knights For Socialism in Orlando. It was so weird but awesome

2017-05-15 00:33:13 UTC  

Phenomenology et al. is masturbation. The focus is wrong. It is a reflection of the material world not the centre of it. How do you even call yourself a Marxist?

2017-05-15 00:35:08 UTC  

ah the old metaphysics is masturbation meme

2017-05-15 00:36:03 UTC  

You do know Sartre was avowedly Marxist for the majority of his life, right?

2017-05-15 00:36:30 UTC  

sartre and de beauvoir both afaik

2017-05-15 00:36:38 UTC  

Yep

2017-05-15 00:36:47 UTC  

I care what a man says not who he keep company with.