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2017-05-16 02:36:17 UTC  

And its not like they hacked the voting machines. So fucking what if trump worked with Russia on media campaigns

2017-05-16 02:36:24 UTC  

Also I disagree learning theory is a blast

2017-05-16 02:36:46 UTC  

@Deleted User
That's what I was thinking, since sufficient education fundamentally requires intrinsic motivation in the first place.

2017-05-16 02:38:00 UTC  

A teacher who uses 'cute pictures' to bring the youth to class, is like a old man giving out candy to get them into his can. It is perverted.

2017-05-16 02:39:37 UTC  

We have to accept that pleasant images sent mixed messages. It is dishonest practice.

2017-05-16 02:40:02 UTC  

What are pleasant images

2017-05-16 02:40:24 UTC  

Turn on your TV.

2017-05-16 02:40:43 UTC  

See Exhibit A.

2017-05-16 02:40:55 UTC  

I mean like a definition not an example

2017-05-16 02:41:13 UTC  

Surely art is still valuable , but some things are distractions

2017-05-16 02:42:07 UTC  

Shitty syndicated tv is a distraction, but appreciation of music or lit or what have you is valuable... Where can we draw a line basically

2017-05-16 02:42:49 UTC  

The difference between advertising and art. Marketting vs culture. Consumerism vs muse.

2017-05-16 02:43:26 UTC  

I like that

2017-05-16 02:44:06 UTC  

Is it intent which differentiates the work's nature as consumerism as opposed to culture?

2017-05-16 02:44:18 UTC  

Or is it a judgement of the product/work itself

2017-05-16 02:44:38 UTC  

Probably judging the thing itself

2017-05-16 02:44:58 UTC  

Someone can set out w good intentions to create their magnum opus and end up making trash

2017-05-16 02:46:01 UTC  

Depends on what you want to teach and what society. Realism vs impressionism. Object vs subject. The form follows.

2017-05-16 02:46:49 UTC  

Art is the conscious material of the process of living. It is contextual.

2017-05-16 02:47:54 UTC  

Good vs bad art could be considered the reflection of consciousness.

2017-05-16 02:50:06 UTC  

I would imagine, in this context of Marxism, hyperrealism but also as interrpeted by the proletariat.

2017-05-16 02:50:13 UTC  

@Deleted User agitation is the lowest type of propaganda. But it is also nessesary.

2017-05-16 02:51:29 UTC  

Agitation is the foundation. It can be built upon. But you can not build upon pretty pictures.

2017-05-16 02:54:33 UTC  

Like you said, enjoyment is extra.

2017-05-16 02:55:20 UTC  

What about the best theoretical journal on Marxism we've got?

2017-05-16 02:55:53 UTC  

I would very much like to read it.

2017-05-16 02:56:15 UTC  

I already gave you the link in English

2017-05-16 02:58:50 UTC  

Read it.

2017-05-16 03:33:17 UTC  

Thoughts on Jordan Peterson? Psued?

2017-05-16 03:33:39 UTC  

*pseud

2017-05-16 03:56:01 UTC  

@Mawk Archetypal theory is scientifically unfalsifiable and not a suitable domain of psychological and scientific enquiry. Although said to be based in clinical observation, Archetypes are defined so vaguely and in a wide and essentially infinite variety of everyday phenomena. It is full of mystical assertions and pseudo-science.

2017-05-16 04:09:26 UTC  

@Zielgerät was it a memeing definition?

2017-05-16 04:10:13 UTC  

Are you sure you don't like Jung?

2017-05-16 04:10:27 UTC  

I didn't.

2017-05-16 04:11:07 UTC  

This theory is pure idealism

2017-05-16 04:11:21 UTC  

Objective idealism

2017-05-16 04:11:24 UTC  

When I was younger, I liked Jung. Teenagers are good at being self-centred.

2017-05-16 04:12:19 UTC  

Jewish religion brings on the same level of idealism.

2017-05-16 04:12:52 UTC  

And I completely disagree with both

2017-05-16 04:12:55 UTC  

Thanks for clarifying