Message from @Mawk

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2017-05-16 02:41:13 UTC  

Surely art is still valuable , but some things are distractions

2017-05-16 02:42:07 UTC  

Shitty syndicated tv is a distraction, but appreciation of music or lit or what have you is valuable... Where can we draw a line basically

2017-05-16 02:42:49 UTC  

The difference between advertising and art. Marketting vs culture. Consumerism vs muse.

2017-05-16 02:43:26 UTC  

I like that

2017-05-16 02:44:06 UTC  

Is it intent which differentiates the work's nature as consumerism as opposed to culture?

2017-05-16 02:44:18 UTC  

Or is it a judgement of the product/work itself

2017-05-16 02:44:38 UTC  

Probably judging the thing itself

2017-05-16 02:44:58 UTC  

Someone can set out w good intentions to create their magnum opus and end up making trash

2017-05-16 02:46:01 UTC  

Depends on what you want to teach and what society. Realism vs impressionism. Object vs subject. The form follows.

2017-05-16 02:46:49 UTC  

Art is the conscious material of the process of living. It is contextual.

2017-05-16 02:47:54 UTC  

Good vs bad art could be considered the reflection of consciousness.

2017-05-16 02:50:06 UTC  

I would imagine, in this context of Marxism, hyperrealism but also as interrpeted by the proletariat.

2017-05-16 02:50:13 UTC  

@Deleted User agitation is the lowest type of propaganda. But it is also nessesary.

2017-05-16 02:51:29 UTC  

Agitation is the foundation. It can be built upon. But you can not build upon pretty pictures.

2017-05-16 02:54:33 UTC  

Like you said, enjoyment is extra.

2017-05-16 02:55:20 UTC  

What about the best theoretical journal on Marxism we've got?

2017-05-16 02:55:53 UTC  

I would very much like to read it.

2017-05-16 02:56:15 UTC  

I already gave you the link in English

2017-05-16 02:58:50 UTC  

Read it.

2017-05-16 03:33:17 UTC  

Thoughts on Jordan Peterson? Psued?

2017-05-16 03:33:39 UTC  

*pseud

2017-05-16 03:56:01 UTC  

@Mawk Archetypal theory is scientifically unfalsifiable and not a suitable domain of psychological and scientific enquiry. Although said to be based in clinical observation, Archetypes are defined so vaguely and in a wide and essentially infinite variety of everyday phenomena. It is full of mystical assertions and pseudo-science.

2017-05-16 04:09:26 UTC  

@Zielgerät was it a memeing definition?

2017-05-16 04:10:13 UTC  

Are you sure you don't like Jung?

2017-05-16 04:10:27 UTC  

I didn't.

2017-05-16 04:11:07 UTC  

This theory is pure idealism

2017-05-16 04:11:21 UTC  

Objective idealism

2017-05-16 04:11:24 UTC  

When I was younger, I liked Jung. Teenagers are good at being self-centred.

2017-05-16 04:12:19 UTC  

Jewish religion brings on the same level of idealism.

2017-05-16 04:12:52 UTC  

And I completely disagree with both

2017-05-16 04:12:55 UTC  

Thanks for clarifying

2017-05-16 04:12:59 UTC  

Haha, I believe that is true. And with the pretense of being moral! A good trap.

2017-05-16 04:14:26 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/313891924291616768/14903514685330.jpg

2017-05-16 04:18:46 UTC  

Idealism is motivated by self-flattery and then the unwillingness to separate from it. Reason to the contrary is suppressed by the ego as a threat.

2017-05-16 04:19:20 UTC  

Like mild schizophrenia.

2017-05-16 04:24:28 UTC  

Absolutely bourgeois.

2017-05-16 04:25:34 UTC  

@everyone please join voice for political discussions. All ideologies are welcome. <:troll_king:312064227542040576>

2017-05-16 04:35:38 UTC  

don't know about them guys, fam...but if they can maintain a stable facebook account without having their mac addy and ip flagged, then they are probably full of shit and have read enough books. Big Money got expelled 106 times since the babylonian diaspora....it was always the peoples' fault...they are just insane and victimise money

2017-05-16 04:36:16 UTC  

@Deleted User threat to what?

2017-05-16 04:36:40 UTC  

@slack you are back <:hrt:312036949453963264>