Message from @OF-8

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2017-05-17 23:36:32 UTC  

Which country are you in idk the context of your political systems

2017-05-17 23:36:53 UTC  

all the right wants to keep capitalism going on

2017-05-17 23:37:01 UTC  

reformists in the left want it too

2017-05-17 23:37:09 UTC  

(socdems)

2017-05-17 23:37:20 UTC  

Removing capitalism is a non-starter

2017-05-17 23:37:28 UTC  

Remove usury

2017-05-17 23:37:51 UTC  

That frees the proles to pursue self-sufficiency which is the only defense against wage-cuckery

2017-05-17 23:39:00 UTC  

the usury is just one form

2017-05-17 23:39:18 UTC  

Yes well it's the most harmful form

2017-05-17 23:39:23 UTC  

Gotta start somewhere.

2017-05-17 23:39:26 UTC  

seizing the means and setting a central planned economy is going directly to the root of the problem

2017-05-17 23:39:32 UTC  

Ehhh

2017-05-17 23:39:37 UTC  

It's like you don't wanna win.

2017-05-17 23:39:43 UTC  

worked for the soviets

2017-05-17 23:39:45 UTC  

but that economy requires a grade of self-sufficiency

2017-05-17 23:39:48 UTC  

and the chinese

2017-05-17 23:39:54 UTC  

like the USSR

2017-05-17 23:40:23 UTC  

Lmao death cult

2017-05-17 23:40:23 UTC  

I wanna win

2017-05-17 23:40:31 UTC  

i wanna win 2

2017-05-17 23:40:32 UTC  

If you wanna win, fight usury

2017-05-17 23:40:37 UTC  

that too

2017-05-17 23:40:48 UTC  

Focus on that

2017-05-17 23:40:48 UTC  

ill win by beating the fuck out of my dick

2017-05-17 23:40:50 UTC  

all exploitation

2017-05-17 23:40:56 UTC  

No, that's autism

2017-05-17 23:41:00 UTC  

heck

2017-05-17 23:41:02 UTC  

@Deleted User Subjectivity can equal objectivity in our case. Even very poor and not well studied. The theory brings us closer even if not too much. One who fights imperialism all his life is an anti-imperialist. USSR was more anti-imperialist than anybody else in history.

2017-05-17 23:41:09 UTC  

The worst exploitation is usury

2017-05-17 23:41:25 UTC  

the worker I told you about doesn't invest

2017-05-17 23:41:45 UTC  

just a wage slave, exploited under the law

2017-05-17 23:42:02 UTC  

and if that worker doesn't meets what the bourgeois wants; the worker is in the street

2017-05-17 23:42:05 UTC  

In fact, without usury or its associated mechanisms, exploitation should reach tolerable levels.

2017-05-17 23:42:07 UTC  

we'd need unions to keep that

2017-05-17 23:42:09 UTC  

Amazingly low.

2017-05-17 23:42:25 UTC  

Also without usury a volunteer economy may emerge

2017-05-17 23:42:32 UTC  

market distortion isn't only from usury

2017-05-17 23:42:43 UTC  

Unions are mafias which exploit the worker.

2017-05-17 23:43:04 UTC  

the nature of an unplanned economy leads to distortion, rewarding or not innovation, the same market (anarchy of production)

2017-05-17 23:43:15 UTC  

Usury is the lions share of market distortion, consider its ripple effects.

2017-05-17 23:43:34 UTC  

I agree, but vertical mafias endowed in the state; those kind of unions