@Deleted User Idle is not so very idle. More thought is present after accumulating free time. Every subject learns faster and use it for its development. There is a combination of social freedoms and authoritarian government. The subjectivity must grow for a developed consciousness. It is best for whole society.

You abstract yourself from developments without certain liberties.

@Ornament If that is true, I support it.

I think that a lot of people in capitalism instead of looking for an alternative they go and "carpe diem"

drink alcohol, get fun

etc.

they conceive leisure time to get fun nothing more

their duties are the work

@Ornament But it may not be true forever. And if progress becomes difficult in this way, we should not shy away from it. That is my contribution.

@Deleted User Why would one or the other way be prevalent? For which purpose? Two ways is better than 1.

Maybe at times one is more prevalent

@Ornament That's true, but we can not foresee the future. There are qualitative changes in the dialectic that may be forms that are unexpected. I wanted to be rigorous about that point. Things that we like are not always correct. Which brings us back to the original contention of intention when it conflicts with correctness.

@Deleted User Which forms?

@Ornament You mean like what comes after Communism? I do not know.

it's the end of history

Is it?

yes, to each according to his need

Forever and ever amen?

https://youtu.be/n5mOd-QnsE4

if we conceive this as post-scarcity yes; and I can't imagine what it would take

how many time

@Deleted User There shouldn't be many for long.

Wow, I did not know about this End of History idea. I assumed the Dialectical process went on forever, and if it didn't, then it's end was just part of a process within an even greater Dialectical process.

@Deleted User not history, but men.

Can you help me understand the difference? The end of men?

@Deleted User I think robots will be smarter very fast. I think you can create AI, it will be done soon.

What will robot society look like? Will this represent future development of the social dialectic?

@Deleted User robot society will die soon too.

How? And then?

And thats it.

What about alien life, will they die soon too?

Depends. If they progress, they do die.

Die because they are being replaced by newer forms or die because they totally self-destruct and take out all possible descendants too?

Is life just a cosmic spasm of carbon that's fate is an inevitable as the inorganic processes around it?

Maybe you can preserve the long existence, but why?

Are you asking why or how?

I just realised that Marx's idea of The End of History is economic freedom, not a literal end. I wonder what happens then.

Freedom to do what though KARL!?

@Deleted User not much. Fast progress.

Progress...to what?

This is a mindfuck.