Message from @Deleted User
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@Ornament But it may not be true forever. And if progress becomes difficult in this way, we should not shy away from it. That is my contribution.
@Deleted User Why would one or the other way be prevalent? For which purpose? Two ways is better than 1.
Maybe at times one is more prevalent
@Ornament That's true, but we can not foresee the future. There are qualitative changes in the dialectic that may be forms that are unexpected. I wanted to be rigorous about that point. Things that we like are not always correct. Which brings us back to the original contention of intention when it conflicts with correctness.
@Deleted User Which forms?
@Ornament You mean like what comes after Communism? I do not know.
it's the end of history
Is it?
yes, to each according to his need
Forever and ever amen?
if we conceive this as post-scarcity yes; and I can't imagine what it would take
how many time
@Deleted User There shouldn't be many for long.
Wow, I did not know about this End of History idea. I assumed the Dialectical process went on forever, and if it didn't, then it's end was just part of a process within an even greater Dialectical process.
@Deleted User not history, but men.
Can you help me understand the difference? The end of men?
@Deleted User I think robots will be smarter very fast. I think you can create AI, it will be done soon.
What will robot society look like? Will this represent future development of the social dialectic?
@Deleted User robot society will die soon too.
And thats it.
What about alien life, will they die soon too?
Depends. If they progress, they do die.
Die because they are being replaced by newer forms or die because they totally self-destruct and take out all possible descendants too?
Is life just a cosmic spasm of carbon that's fate is an inevitable as the inorganic processes around it?
Maybe you can preserve the long existence, but why?
Are you asking why or how?
I just realised that Marx's idea of The End of History is economic freedom, not a literal end. I wonder what happens then.
Freedom to do what though KARL!?
@Deleted User not much. Fast progress.
Progress...to what?
This is a mindfuck.
To nothing.
Nothing?!
absolute nothing
I can't...
Is this not troubling to you?
I need to lie down.