Message from @Deleted User

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2017-05-19 04:50:33 UTC  

yes

2017-05-19 04:50:46 UTC  

Have they stolen from *you* recently?

2017-05-19 04:50:58 UTC  

always

2017-05-19 04:51:02 UTC  

How so?

2017-05-19 04:51:55 UTC  

From what's worked, a part of what I produce goes for them

2017-05-19 04:52:01 UTC  

surplus value

2017-05-19 04:52:06 UTC  

And you produce?

2017-05-19 04:52:07 UTC  

but more like alienation in my case

2017-05-19 04:52:19 UTC  

educational one

2017-05-19 04:52:38 UTC  

the other one I see in my family

2017-05-19 04:52:41 UTC  

yes

2017-05-19 04:52:57 UTC  

Forgive me but I don't understand

2017-05-19 04:53:04 UTC  

What do you produce

2017-05-19 04:54:01 UTC  

It doesn't matter. Workers go to the workplace and they receive wages; these wages are just a part of what the owner has won in total

2017-05-19 04:54:05 UTC  

the profit

2017-05-19 04:54:14 UTC  

and just a little part goes to the workers in the form of salary

2017-05-19 04:54:32 UTC  

the other part is surplus value extracted from the workers who have worked for the enterprise

2017-05-19 04:55:16 UTC  

@Deleted User his parents produce.

2017-05-19 04:56:08 UTC  

So you would say you are of the opinion you are for a sense of justice rather than personal strife?

2017-05-19 04:56:50 UTC  

@Deleted User Something stolen from his family is something stolen from him.

2017-05-19 04:57:04 UTC  

What does his family produce and for whom?

2017-05-19 04:57:29 UTC  

@Deleted User I don't know him. I'm here first time.

2017-05-19 04:58:24 UTC  

What is the difference?

2017-05-19 05:01:16 UTC  

Every man's reasons for his opinions is personal, whether it's a personal zeal to solve the problems of others as well

2017-05-19 05:02:00 UTC  

I seek to understand the cause, solution, and reasons for involvement

2017-05-19 05:02:14 UTC  

@Deleted User I don't have a personal problem with capitalism. But I'm Marxist

2017-05-19 05:02:33 UTC  

I'm also petite-bourgeois

2017-05-19 05:02:36 UTC  

Do you have a personal problem with the bourgeois?

2017-05-19 05:02:43 UTC  

By objective class

2017-05-19 05:02:46 UTC  

How are you petit-bourgeois?

2017-05-19 05:02:59 UTC  

@Deleted User From my family.

2017-05-19 05:03:35 UTC  

And the wealth of your family are a fount for you to drink from?

2017-05-19 05:03:52 UTC  

@Deleted User Now it is my wealth

2017-05-19 05:04:00 UTC  

Inheritence?

2017-05-19 05:04:06 UTC  
2017-05-19 05:04:24 UTC  

The worker doesn't own the means of production, the enterprise. So the worker has to sell the skills (labour force)... but since the worker is in disadvantage to negotiate a contract the worker needs to push for better conditions or it depends completely on the conditions of the bourgeois

2017-05-19 05:04:34 UTC  

that's why there are unions

2017-05-19 05:05:18 UTC  

Lenin was an aristocrat, Engels managed his own fabrics.

2017-05-19 05:05:27 UTC  

It is unfortunate the the aloof bourgeois still do not understand the necessity of working with their employees rather than distancing themselves and allowing for others to take their place in that area

2017-05-19 05:05:49 UTC  

That detail always tickles me Apex

2017-05-19 05:05:54 UTC  

@Deleted User Only revolution can bring communism.