Message from @Chairman Jack

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2017-05-20 20:29:57 UTC  

Nahh

2017-05-20 20:30:01 UTC  

Not really

2017-05-20 20:30:02 UTC  

If they would of kept with hardline ML no Rebellion would of happened

2017-05-20 20:30:02 UTC  

they didn't?

2017-05-20 20:30:03 UTC  

heck

2017-05-20 20:30:17 UTC  

They did but they were pawns

2017-05-20 20:30:34 UTC  

Well our Stalinist leadership was cool

2017-05-20 20:30:43 UTC  

It was more stalinist then the ussr

2017-05-20 20:31:14 UTC  

Stalinism isn't a real thing

2017-05-20 20:31:16 UTC  

im polish but i don't really know anything about communist poland in a marxist perspective

2017-05-20 20:31:28 UTC  

It's a slur for ML used by Trots and Anarchists

2017-05-20 20:31:34 UTC  

lol yeah

2017-05-20 20:31:57 UTC  

i came from another leftypol server and they told me ML is just glourified demsoc

2017-05-20 20:32:08 UTC  

and that we should abandon marx theory

2017-05-20 20:32:24 UTC  

You gave me cancer

2017-05-20 20:32:24 UTC  

Cia agents

2017-05-20 20:32:33 UTC  

honestly it fucking shocked me

2017-05-20 20:32:43 UTC  

They did the hungarian revolution aswell

2017-05-20 20:32:55 UTC  

I didn't even know someone could be that dumb

2017-05-20 20:32:59 UTC  

la-z-boy - Today at 4:07 PM
@petit bourgeois It's been incorporated perfectly into it as an ideological slogan, the understanding that gave rise to the ideas is meanwhile being lost. Ownership of the means of production is something capitalism has no problem propagating if it serves to stabilize capital, same with the dictatorship of the proletariat, in the worse case scenario you end up with a ML state. What the real goal is, is to fundamentally reorganize society as to abandon the law of value and move into the organization around use value, and for that we need sensible theory and praxis which allows us to do this without degenerating into opportunism - that is social democracy, state capitalism, fascism and so on.

2017-05-20 20:33:43 UTC  

I seek death

2017-05-20 20:33:54 UTC  

la-z-boy - Today at 4:11 PM
@Epyc Wynn at least you're not a ML who is just in denial about being a socdem

2017-05-20 20:33:56 UTC  

kill me

2017-05-20 20:34:06 UTC  

P U R E I D E O L I G Y

2017-05-20 20:34:18 UTC  

this is almost better than Prageru

2017-05-20 20:34:31 UTC  

I don't even attempt to talk to someone like that

2017-05-20 20:34:33 UTC  

la-z-boy - Today at 4:03 PM
@petit bourgeois @Bread Yes I was, Marxism as a tradition nowadays has been fully incorporated within the capitalist system and is utilized by it to stabilize capital. Look at all communist parties in the world and leftist movements, unions as well, they serve to organize workers and paint pictures of worker control & organization, of automation and luxury, all unwilling to adhere to the fundamental message that Marx delivered to us. If we want to move beyond this state of things, we need to move beyond Marx

2017-05-20 20:34:39 UTC  

It's a waste of time

2017-05-20 20:34:41 UTC  

im tempted to just leave

2017-05-20 20:34:50 UTC  

I would

2017-05-20 20:35:00 UTC  

I would too

2017-05-20 20:35:12 UTC  

holy fuck this is sad

2017-05-20 20:35:33 UTC  

The amount of ignorance you need to say stuff like that will just lead to you being dumbed down by being near them

2017-05-20 20:36:13 UTC  

I dont think that a sane leftist could say this

2017-05-20 20:36:28 UTC  

i think your breath stinks

2017-05-20 20:36:33 UTC  

they said that socialism was communism

2017-05-20 20:36:33 UTC  

Sorry

2017-05-20 20:36:37 UTC  

no difference

2017-05-20 20:36:43 UTC  

A sane and intelligent person couldn't say that

2017-05-20 20:36:53 UTC  

honestly what a fucking prageru clone

2017-05-20 20:36:54 UTC  

^