Message from @Blebleh
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some anarchists call this semilibertarianism
or anarcho-leninism
Is this something you support?
yes
I also could support a party as an extension
Then our positions are not so different. You want a 'representative' Party based on consensus, I see a better alternative based on competency.
the platform is independent from the party
parties are hierarchic
I think you are deluding yourself. If the platform is arrived at via a minority of representatives, then there is a hierarchy.
I don't think they should arrive with a minority of representatives
it's just for promoting ideas or getting the ground prepared
You just said that people don't have time to be in the platform?
Who decides the ideas?
I said that not all
but it can be massive
Not unless every individual has equal intellect and involved. Practically it is not massive in content.
we'd have to select texts from bakunin, marx, etc.
Basically you just want 'consent'.
@Deleted User It can with the unions
the unions are revolutionary in that they explain the ideology
otherwise they can't be revolutionary, they have a final objective
My objection is that not all union members have an active role. Basically you give them the memo and then they just sign off on it. That is your idea of non-hierarchy, which is pretty deceptive.
Yes they have an active role
How so?
By holding your banner?
Unions are based in direct action
not in "professionals"
those professionals usually sell the working class
they pact with the bourgeoisie
Are you trying to strawman me?
Let me get this right. You have people teaching ideology, but there are no leaders. You have people making a platform, but there is no hierarchy?
Ah, I understand you
there's no hierarchy inside the platform, but the people who can't get into the platform can consent
Hooray!
That's authoritarian.
Well, it would be.
If you didn't rely on a deceptive formality like 'consent'.
