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is what politics should be

What I would add is that consensus in itself has little bearing on correct decision making.

I don't think that liberating ourselves from the original authoritarians is an authoritarian act, but a libertarian one; without banning factions.

it has to do with accountability

to make sure that people understand what they're choosing and what's going on

Why not just educate?

What has the formality of choice have to do with anything?

Yes educate, I think you're viewing the politics as something very positive right now

it has to do with a culture of revision

Yes. So why not just educate on what is happening and the reasons why it is happening, and just skip the whole 'okay now sign here I need your consent please'.

If you're referring to a pre-revolutionary phase, the platform needs to measure the support in a certain form and we need to organize for the revolution

does anyone know about the left caucus in the DSA

I agree that is important. But you still deny that there is authority involved? Obviously this executive comes from somewhere.

@Blebleh All of anarchism is pre-revolutionary.

I conceive authority as something imposed. If there wasn't a state, the people would seize the means of production; so capitalism needs a state

It's violent but I still consider it a libertarian act

And as pre-revolutionary, in theory I disagree; there's a discussion for example in if we should use wages or not

@Deleted User propaganda of democracy is too strong. You can not educate everyone.

bourgeois democracy

@Blebleh any

in this democracy some proletarians don't have time for it; the academia is friend of the bourgeoisie

the media is controlled by them

@Blebleh you have time. Do you learn or repeat known?

@Blebleh According to you, 'consent' negates authoritarianism, and violence is a libertarian act. This is madness.

@Deleted User violence against those who impose us that way, a revolutionary way, since they're the original authoritarians, is a libertarian act

@Firefly A mix

@Blebleh what did you learn here today?

@Blebleh So only the 'original' structure is authority, but revolutionary structure is always libertarian. This does not follow.

@Firefly About trotskyism, but this is irrelevant

@Deleted User Yes, because we abolish authority instead of creating a new one

@Deleted User State authority I mean, as imposition of capitalism on the proletariat

I cannot continue this discussion

You just jumped off the bridge.

why?

What on earth can shake your stance on democracy? What possibly can make you wish no more of it?

@Blebleh You just said that you destroy the state structure then do nothing.