for dollars

not only that, but becoming a part of the oppression

Self-sufficiency is only possible on the backs of others who are not so fortunate. It is simple mathematics.

so then the only way to quit capitalism and enable the individual is to enable a state which will disable the realization of the individual

hm

what are you even talking about

What makes you think people have that choice, OF? Do people slaving in sweatshops have that ability? Do people working in mines in Africa so that Apple can have the rare stones it needs for its products have that ability? No.

what's wrong with riding the bcks of others?

the realization of the individual has nothing to do with becoming a capitalist

proof to me this is bad

The point of capitalism is that you are coerced into selling your labor power and participating in it.

Also, as Skittles says, not everyone has a chance

no, you can fuck off to the woods and farm

OF, you clearly haven't worked a single day on the countryside

un true

Or know anything about farming

This is pure idealism

no i ran a couple of larger automated crop farms

no labor, all robots

If you want to stop being exploited you have to fuck off to a farm and grow your own food, totally isolated from the rest of society and never able to live in a society with equal opportunities for everyone.

"Prove to me that exploitation is bad." OF-8 2017

kek

that's not the same as going to the woods and farming

lol no it isnt

So yeah, case in point

@OF-8 Most people don't have the ability to do that and no one should be forced to do that just to live in the way that the world should be.

but homesteading works like a motherfucker

i had 2 acres in east texas and went 2 years without touching a dollar

@Deleted User none of that is my problem

The point is that exploitation is wrong, it's not consensual, and humanity as a whole would be better off when we jettison capitalism.

"none of that is my problem" is exactly *your* problem

Fuck most people.

you can't think about others

you only think about yourself

I think about those who have meaning to me.

Narrow egoism again, as bleh said

the rest are animals

Take the selfish point of view. If exploitation exists in the system, it can happen to you also.

your ideological beliefs reflect the narrow-minded selfishness you exude.

@Deleted User ive profited off it to the tune of transcending nearly all the socio economic classes

so, if you're smart you can make it work