Message from @OF-8

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2017-05-24 03:19:20 UTC  

If man is not suited to be free, then man has to change instead of merely changing the definition of freedom.

2017-05-24 03:19:28 UTC  

Free speech in capitalist society is money. If you have no money, you have no speech. Contrarily, if you have billions of dollars, you have the loudest speech.

2017-05-24 03:19:40 UTC  

It's basically the cultural domination of a ruling class that shapes said culture according to their agenda and needs, as in, manipulating various aspects of society so the working classes accept that reality as a norm

2017-05-24 03:19:45 UTC  

well, get money or GTFO

2017-05-24 03:19:59 UTC  

you can exist in a capitalist system and just quit

2017-05-24 03:20:02 UTC  

go self-sufficient

2017-05-24 03:20:11 UTC  

you can't go self-sufficient

2017-05-24 03:20:19 UTC  

Says who

2017-05-24 03:20:26 UTC  

Says me, who has tried to quit

2017-05-24 03:20:32 UTC  

you were shit at it

2017-05-24 03:20:33 UTC  

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organised groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.

2017-05-24 03:20:39 UTC  

ive quit a few times

2017-05-24 03:20:46 UTC  

And has visited and has lots of information about communes

2017-05-24 03:21:05 UTC  

lmfao, communes are exclusively run by retards or they're not called communes

2017-05-24 03:21:12 UTC  

And every single one of them had a relation to capitalism in some way or another

2017-05-24 03:21:40 UTC  

nah, actually nah

2017-05-24 03:21:59 UTC  

its totally possible to own land and the means of production necessary for a fully realized life

2017-05-24 03:22:04 UTC  

literally with no dependency on capital

2017-05-24 03:22:11 UTC  

Then you're becoming the bourgeois

2017-05-24 03:22:13 UTC  

and none of this cancerous commie shit

2017-05-24 03:22:23 UTC  

That's basically participating actively in capitalism

2017-05-24 03:22:31 UTC  

if i trade

2017-05-24 03:22:33 UTC  

for dollars

2017-05-24 03:22:35 UTC  

not only that, but becoming a part of the oppression

2017-05-24 03:23:11 UTC  

Self-sufficiency is only possible on the backs of others who are not so fortunate. It is simple mathematics.

2017-05-24 03:23:16 UTC  

so then the only way to quit capitalism and enable the individual is to enable a state which will disable the realization of the individual

2017-05-24 03:23:18 UTC  

hm

2017-05-24 03:23:31 UTC  

what are you even talking about

2017-05-24 03:23:35 UTC  

What makes you think people have that choice, OF? Do people slaving in sweatshops have that ability? Do people working in mines in Africa so that Apple can have the rare stones it needs for its products have that ability? No.

2017-05-24 03:23:43 UTC  

what's wrong with riding the bcks of others?

2017-05-24 03:23:44 UTC  

the realization of the individual has nothing to do with becoming a capitalist

2017-05-24 03:23:48 UTC  

proof to me this is bad

2017-05-24 03:23:58 UTC  

The point of capitalism is that you are coerced into selling your labor power and participating in it.

2017-05-24 03:24:03 UTC  

Also, as Skittles says, not everyone has a chance

2017-05-24 03:24:20 UTC  

no, you can fuck off to the woods and farm

2017-05-24 03:24:41 UTC  

OF, you clearly haven't worked a single day on the countryside

2017-05-24 03:24:48 UTC  

un true

2017-05-24 03:24:56 UTC  

Or know anything about farming

2017-05-24 03:25:02 UTC  

This is pure idealism

2017-05-24 03:25:20 UTC  

no i ran a couple of larger automated crop farms