Even if it were true (it's not), so what? Why should you accept that as the norm?

@Deleted User i have no reason to take your opinion as fact

Why should i rebel against it

Again, we are perpetuating the status quo. If a system is objectively better materially for humanity, it should be implemented.

Natural =/= good anyway

the world is as it is, and my responsibility is not to the weak, not to the stupid, but to my tribe

@OF-8 In capitalism most people who want to get out of poverty take loan, lose business and are bankrupt. Prove me wrong.

@OF-8 You're the one claiming the hierarchy is natural without providing evidence to substantiate that claim.

@Archymage those people are creditgoys, it's sad that the system encourages creditgoy habits, but ....

>not bootstrapping

@OF-8 it is sad most people who want to get out of poverty go bankrupt?

@Deleted User i dont need to convince you, it's a point of analytical assumption, not rhetorical debate

@Archymage not really

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So you assume something there is absolutely no evidence for because it serves your analysis? lmao right then

hardly, im not into teaching you how human social groups work

Of course you aren't, because you don't even understand how human social groups work.

it's your responsibility to read outside of marks

marx

Because your assumption that you've started with is wrong.

socialist compendium of bullshit lmfao

we disagree skitts, it's gonna happen

I have, which is why I said I haven't seen any evidence for this supposed natural hierarchy innate to humans.

It's not a disagreement of opinion but of fact.

OF, you don't have the authority to tell anyone to read outside Marx when you don't even understand basic concepts

and you go right on believing that, it makes you easier to exploit

I am sovereign, dickfart.

You're believing something without evidence because it fits your distorted worldview.

You're nothing but a useful idiot at the hands of capital

i feel the same about you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9OyYMsvvw4

like, precisely the same

>recognizing that capitalism is inherently exploiting you makes you a slave to it

???

uh

@OF-8 If you want individual realisation, should it be at the expense of others, or should all people be able to self-realise?

lmao

Yep, the only difference is that behind my claims there is analysis and fact, behind your, only ideology and bourgeois influence

wether my realization consumes the lifeblood or material essence of others is not my decision

Exploitation is entropy, entropy is the universe.

oh my god